The Fallen Started the Great War [Maybe Massive Spoilers]

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  1. knook

    knook Let the Virus Consume You

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    Anyone that's seen the defiance preview will have noticed that there are no factions and that Megatron is the "lord" of Cybertron. This would leave me to believe that The Fallen is indeed who he is in War Within, One of the 13 who fell into Darkness, he's obviously trying to start a war so he manipulates Megatron, Optimus and his ban of merry men start a rebellion and split off from the "Decepticons" The Fallen is then sent out into Space (presumably because Megatron hates there being someone controlling him) and hits ancient Egypt, at first he's seen as a God and worshipped by the Egyptians but then they start to realise that he's evil and they seal him within the Great Pyramid

    The rest is pretty easy to work out
     
  2. Ash from Carolina

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    I haven't kept up with the movie comics, but I think it's possible. Orci said the second movie would have deeper Transformers mythology so I could see the Fallen fitting in that way.
     
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    there has to be some allspark connection, there's no way that they just happened to be on the same planet because of a random bounce off an asteroid, i reckon the fallen was calling out to the allspark to come to revive him.

    obviously it didn't make it there though, and all there is now left is the fragment.. alliance 2 seems to hint that soundwave has been off travelling round the galaxy on a pilgrimage to find the fallen, so seems to make sense that he would be after the fragment too to try and revive him once he founds out what's going on
     
  4. knook

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    That's a good idea although this IS a Movie :p 
     
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    fallen is traitor and now fallen work for his uncle - he and uncle unicorn fall into black hole
     
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    and now unicrons in the movie universe with a connection to the allspark
     
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    The Fallen (in WW Mythology) was one of the original 13 who was merely corrupted by Unicron
     
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    Who said The Fallen is in movie?
     
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    the fallen was created by primus unicrons brother
     
  10. knook

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    No, The Fallen was created by Primus, He then got corrupted by Unicron

    http://tfwiki.net/wiki/The_Fallen
     
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    simon furman the comic covers the movie poster multiple interviews box artwork and the title of the movie
     
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    Well there was some other speculation I did in another thread...

     
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    Actually The Fallen used Jedi tricks on Megatron
    -''You will bring the allspark to me.'' =P :lolol 
     
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    Well that's preety much what I was trying to get at.
     
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    Yeah, didn't I start a topic before on exactly the same idea?
     
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    do you have a link confirming that the comic covers, movie poster and box artwork are the fallen or are you just assuming thats him?

    do you have a link confirming the title is referin to a character or is that just more assumption?

    do you have anyway to prove what simon furman as well as other people who were interviewed said are actually true or are you just taking thier word?

    if you can answer yes to any of these questions then you have a point, otherwise there is no reason to just assume hes in it becuase of the rumors stating he is
     
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    Preety much...
     
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    - Three highly-placed IDW staffers involved with the Transformers franchise confirmed that a character called the Fallen was the main villain of Revenge of the Fallen.
    - Simon Furman additionally confirmed that this Fallen was the character from the War Within. He repeated this at a UK convention.
    - When Michael Bay was made aware of the interviews (and the revelation that they had the script), the interviews were purged of all references to the script and the Fallen.
    - Furman is working with Hasbro on The 13, a book about the 13 original transformers, one of whom is the Fallen. Is it just a coincidence that the year where there is a movie called "Revenge of the Fallen" there will be a major publication dealing with origins of the Fallen? Part of the interview that was censored removes much of the announcement and information about The 13.
    - Bay confirmed the existence of a character called the Fallen.


    With this information in mind, it is very reasonable to assume that at the very least, there is a character called the Fallen in Revenge of the Fallen.
     
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    That's pretty much what I've been thinking the whole time.
     
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    All good points. Oh, and Shia said The Fallen was a character too.
     

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