Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by Nevermore, Feb 1, 2007.
Good for him; it's good to see people standing up for their convictions like that.
I can respect that. Not necessarily agree with it, but nice to see someone walk away from a paycheck because they believe something is wrong, without making it into an unnecessary outcry.
What was the rumour?
The rumor was that he quit the show due to that episode, and now it is confirmed.
He's ******ed, it was a friggin cartoon for godsakes, get over it.
I can see both sides...
But I'm more inclined to agree with this.
oprules007 (shortened for time) cracks me up. It's like I can predict everything you say beforehand.
You can't agree with what? Casey not wanting his heritage mocked? ugh.
I can totally respect him for standing up for what he believed in. It's not something I personally could care about...but overall it's not like Cliffjumper, Bluestreak and Teletraan were huge characters on the show anyway
I never knew Casey Kasem was arab
Yah, most of us say the same thing of you.
The difference is, we'll defend Kasem.
Wow, interesting topic.
This sounds a lot like how Issac Hayes decided to quit South Park when the creators decided to make an episode making fun of Scientology. Yet he had no problem doing previous episodes that made fun of all the other religions.
Hey, I don't go insulting you, back off. You have an issue you with me take it to a mod or to PM's but next time, keep your mouth shut before you attack me.
Oh God, not again. I suggest you stop now, and take it to PMs anyway. Getting threads locked doesn't exactly make you popular.
I can only assume this was meant sarcastically.
Otherwise... umm.... it was a "friggin' cartoon" watched by millions of impressionable young kids in its day. Don't you think it's valid for people to be concerned about it instilling certain damaging stereotypes at an early age? How is it any less irresponsible to use offensive sterotypes in a kids's show than in a show targeted at adults? Actually, I would say it is MORE irresponsible because kids don't have the critical thinking abilities necessary to step back from something and recognize it as a stereotype.
Kasem stood by his principles and his heritage, that earns him some respect in my book. Although there is something deliciously ironic about a member on a Transformers message board telling someone to "get over" a cartoon. Heh.
Yep. Walked right off the show and even made a big deal about it in the local media for a bit. When the Matt Stone and Trey Parker were asked about it all they said was "He had no problem cashing his paychecks when we made fun of other people's religions."
The difference, I feel, is that Issac Hayes actually said something in the media to the effect that it was "wrong to make fun of other people's religion no matter the religion". However, he's a hypocrite for saying so because he had done plenty of episodes before hand that made fun of all sorts of different religions and only found his "convictions" when the Scientology episode was made.
To my knowledge, though Kasem quit the show over that whole thing, he had never once done anything in any episode of Transformers, Scooby Doo or any of the other cartoons that he had been in that would make his actions at the time seem hypocritical. So, you've got to respect Kasem for what he did even if you think he went a bit overboard on it.
Or course, to be frank, I agree with him wholeheartedly from the stand point that it wasn't a very good image to present to children. Not to mention the name of the "Arab Nation"... Carboabya... for those a little slow on the uptake... Car Bomb You. Yeah, the guy who wrote that script should have been fired for racism among other things and anyone who was involved in the approval process should have had some sort of disciplinary action done against them. I can completely understand Kasem's position on this.
How does this explain Cliffjumper being in the movie. Were the movie voices done already before the end of Season 2?
Also wasn't Teletraan 1 in the 5 faces of darkness in season 3?
I suppose if I had a more specific ethinic background than what I do, i'd probably be pissed if the company I worked for was only interested in portaying it with bad, derogatory stereotyping.
I think it took class for Kasem to handle it the way he did.
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