TFW2005 Coverage Of Hasbro Media And Investor Day 2017

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  1. Windsweeper II

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    That would have been something a kid might have said about Bumblebee that is at least somewhat unique to the character.
    The catchwords they used are in no way defining traits of the character. They are just catchwords Hasbro wants to sell him with.
     
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    ...ok. Who gives a shit if they are?
     
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  3. Windsweeper II

    Windsweeper II The Pristine

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    I do... i do.
     
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    ZapRowsdower Statistically, people enjoy 25% of what I say! :D

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    Yes.

    Kids love BB. I can vouch for that. And those words are attributable to any bot, right? Because kids are actually projecting values onto BB (that he may or may not have). BB is a blank slate for their imagination and aspirations. He represents what they want a hero role model to be.

    Why BB and not Hound or Cliffjumper? BECAUSE. BB. IS. F*CKING. YELLOW.

    Seriously. Period. The bright color is attractive and interesting to young kids. If you take BB and paint him blue or red, the magic is gone. I'm surprised they didn't put "YELLOW" as one of the important features - clearly Hasbro was mining for ad words and marketing messages. :rolleyes2 

    Seriously. He's yellow. KIDS LOVE YELLOW.

    No. You're wrong. TEEN TITANS GO is quite possibly BETTER than Teen Titans. The humor is fun and it's the best representation of Cyborg you will ever find. They turned the most boring member of the cast into the most exciting, and you think the show is "tripe"? :rolleyes2  No. Let's end this popular misconception that silly humor and wacky jokes are "ruining" something. Some people think their car can only have 3 "colors": gray, black, or white. But those aren't "colors", are they? I wonder if such people even realize how devoid of life their choices are?

    Teen Titans Go is like that. It's fun and irreverent, and KIDS LOVE IT. You want to condemn TFs to serious toons only? Yeah, that's like owning a gray car and thinking you're cool for it! :rolleyes2  :lol  I don't want to live in a world where Cyborg and Beast Boy cannot have a giant mecha fight over which is better, burgers or burritos! If that scene is wrong, I don't want to be right. :D 
     
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    ZapRowsdower Statistically, people enjoy 25% of what I say! :D

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    I got a couple of things out of this, that no one has really talked about yet...

    1) Hasbro's target demographic is kids... which are clearly defined as 10 and under. :wtf: Really? So anything over 10 yrs old is considered a "fan"? :lol  :lol  :lol 

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    2) G1 redux is intriguing, and I definitely think kids <10 yrs will be interested. My kids love G1, but the age of the show is clearly a negative (some new animation would help). They love the 86 movie; they can't watch the Bay movies (too dark and scary, not to mention the stupid pot humor and unnecessary T&A from the current flavor model of the day).

    C) I would like Rescue Bots more (now that I see it's intended for 3-5 yrs) if it was actually educational. Maybe even some animal portions, with TFs interacting with real animals a la National Geographic? Seriously, the current format of RB is garbage to me. And lacking a BB as a main character is a big negative, as my kids couldn't care less about RB. I know it's unpopular to say all of this, but I don't like RB and I don't think it's a good program for young kids. Throw in something educational and maybe I'd reconsider.
     
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    do kids really love it? or do they watch it because its the only thing Cartoon network airs anymore?
    the original (good) teen titans cartoon had its moments (and even occasionally full episodes) of wackiness, but they balanced it out with deep plots and likable characters.
    and no, i dont want to "condemn" transformers to grimdark shows only. i'd prefer a proper balance. the way Animated and Beast Wars handled things.
     
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    Yes, kids LOVE IT. For certain. Do you really think it's a coincidence that CN plays it so often? Or could it be that it tests well and rates highly enough to warrant the constant airing? :sly: 

    BW was a mess, admit it. It lacked a proper tone or focus; it was schizophrenic. Serious to wacky, with no apparent reason behind it, other than the particular writer behind that particular episode. Where was the cohesion? It was seriously a bunch of writers doing random sh*t with the characters, imo.

    And you miss the point: irreverent comedy works. Maybe your adult sensibilities are bothered by the light-hearted silliness, but I enjoy Teen Titans Go a LOT. It's ridiculous and cheerful. AND IT'S DARK. Have you seen enough episodes to really judge the show? How about the episode where Cyborg takes over the tower and turns everyone into household appliance robots? Did you see that? SPOILER ALERT: The Titans end up as enslaved household robots at the end. How is that not DARK? And that's just off the top of my head. Honestly, Season 1 is full of disappointingly dark episodes that end tragically or horrifically. It's just wrapped in zaniness. But hey, you don't have to like it - I'm just completely mystified by the strong HATRED for this show. It's honestly amazing, imo, because it's so fun and different. And all I hear is, "WHINE WHINE WHINE! I WANT THE OLD TEEN TITANS! :cry " And I get it! The old show was also good. But that doesn't mean Teen Titans Go is horrible, nor that a TF version of this would be a bad idea. The goal is to capture the hearts of children.

    Cyborg has a freakin' MEATBALL CANNON. How can you not be into that? :lol  :lol  :lol 

    Imagine depicting BB with an unnatural love for spaghetti? Or having Optimus be this obnoxious show off that steals the final shot and glory? :lol  It's just silly fun. When people hate Teen Titans Go, I feel it reveals the current mood of this country: cranky and pissed off. :(  Cause ya'll would have openly embraced Teen Titans Go in the 80s/90s! ;) 
     
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    My kids love Teen Titans GO (now 10,11,14) and I have to admit, from what I've seen, some are very entertaining. I see a lot of throwbacks for 80s adults that makes it tolerable when they're watching it.
     
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    Ratchet better be in Cyberverse. With more screen time and witty dialogue. Oh and his wrenches. Gotta have him throwing those wrenches.
     
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    And who's sidekick is Megatron going to be next time?
     
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    Ah, Hasbro. Still trying to make those movies, eh? Gotta love Rom the Space Knight brandishing a giant gun (sarcasm). Still, the Visionaries concept art looks cool.
     
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    Galvatron better be in Cyberverse.
    If not in season one he should be in season two.
    I want to see that mad but cunning Decepticon leader in action again.
     
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    I don't mind the old 80's lines revamped like Micronauts, MASK and Visionaries... At least they are coming with new merchandise and exposure.
     
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    Odd that kids love Yellow, since it's the color of the school bus. That takes them to school. Do kids love school more these days? Dang, I hear a kid say they like Bee because he's yellow, I'm just going to say "Oh yellow like a school bus?" and see what their reaction is.

    As for Teen Titans Go, it wouldn't have half the hatred if it didn't strangle everything else out of the schedule. Seriously at least a third of the damn CN schedule is TTG at any given time. And don't give me "Oh but they only put it on that much because it's popular." Well no shit sherlock, being the only fucking thing on ensures it's going to be popular. Which do you think kids are more likely to watch TTG with it's being on six or more hours a DAY, or Justice League Action being on FIFTEEN MINUTES A WEEK? And that's not because JLA wasn't good, it's because it's getting no support, whereas TTG is getting all of it. Fuck they couldn't take a half an hour a day out of TTG repeats to give some other show some support. You don't think it's wrong that RID is in a early morning death slot, becuase CN just wants to spam repeats of TTG all Saturday morning? Hell when I worked at the college radio station, if we played any one band that much we'd be getting investigated by the FCC.
     
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    But radio stations DO work the same way: whoever pays gets played. And we hear the same music...

    "QUESTION: Why is it... every time I turn on the radio, I hear the same 5 songs, 15 times a day, FOR THREE MONTHS????"
    FUNK DAT!!!

    And you're arguing different things: scheduling versus TTG being good or bad. If you hate the scheduling, I can agree with you that it's messed up, but you are blaming TTG for that???

    Young kids (3-5 yrs old) love bright colors, and not much is brighter than yellow. I've stuck Cliffjumper next to BB, and my kid will pick BB every time! And these two are almost identical, save the color. So colors are a big deal, and Hasbro seems ignorant of that important detail...

    I'll give you an adult example:
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    Same dress, two girls in same club, which one do you see first? Which one do you approach first? So before even addressing the color, Hasbro uses marketing buzzwords like "friendly" and "nice" and "hero" etc. etc. etc. :rolleyes2  I think kids like the general look of BB, the COLOR, and then attribute all that other jazz to him - generic qualities they appreciate and that can describe virtually EVERY AUTOBOT.
     
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    Pay to be played is called payola, and if you get caught doing it is a pretty hefty fine. As for hearing the same songs, that's because they are currently in what's called Heavy Rotation. At the station I was at the playlist was determined by the program director, and based on what they wanted to run, the certain songs would show up on those lists more often than not, but there were certain rules, such as never playing them back to back or more than once an hour. If that happened for a song and it slipped in, you had to play a different one.

    Now that's radio guidlines, Cable TV is much different. But CN is quite frankly notorious for how many shows it's screwed. And not all of those shows did poorly. Young Justice for example had great ratings. With older viewers, and female viewers. CN concluded it wouldn't sell merch like TTG. Funny thing is I've seen more merch for YJ than TTG. Though I may simply be looking in the wrong parts of the store.

    To make matters more screwed up, CN is also notorious for being hostile to shows produced by other branches of Warner Brothers, and not by them, as the money from merchendising goes more to that other divison. And then there's that odd thing where CN will screw a show and take it off the air after three episodes despite having ordered and paid for a whole season (though that may be mitigated by CN affiliates in Latin America and Europe actually running the whole series). Thus wasting the money invested.

    Which is why I'm not surprised to see that Cyberverse having a streaming option is mentioned, as Hasbro likely expects CN to try and screw them again. Hell Pokemon got tired of that shit and jumped ship to Disney, and they were in a better timeslot.
    Oh there are things I can blame TTG for. It's mean spirited, it's protagonists are bullying assholes, it revels in insulting it's audience and everything else, and one gets the impression at times the writers aren't fond of working on the show either. Occasionally however it will have a good episode with actually funny jokes. But that's just my opinion, and you are entitled to yours, and if you and your kids like it fine. However the scheduling at the expense of every other show does mean it ends up crowding other shows out of the schedule, and that people that like those shows, and don't really, really love TTG are going to get sick and tired of it. And no it is not because the show is that good, it's because it's a cheap safe way for the executives to make money at minimal risk and investment. But it's still going to be the visible part that makes the easiest outlet to vent at. Simply put as it's on so much TTG is basically forced down our throats at the expense of other things we might like better, hence we come to hate it like a man forced to eat eggs for every meal for six years straight will come to never want to eat eggs again.
     
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    Did kids love the original Scooby Doo? Because Cartoon Network played that about 14 hours a day in the early 2000s.

    I enjoy TTG (on a different level than TT) but CN's schedule is something else entirely.

    And it's not helped by the networks and toy companies repeatedly failing to coordinate on any level. You do not tie a toyline and cartoon together and then launch them 6-24 months apart. It just doesn't work that way. Not on Mars, not in coke-fueled nightmares, and certainly not in the real world.

    That's because King Bungler Jazwares has the license. They're notorious for doing a small handful of extremely low quality toys, many broken right in the package, and then blaming the license for poor performance. They are the monkey paw of every "I wish I wish I wish anybody would make toys of X!" When I learned they had the A-Team movie license, I practically cried because I knew it meant there was no chance in Hell of seeing a classic set. When Adventure Time took off, it was another stab in the back. Everything they touch turns to crap.

    I mean TTG has five principal characters and those cretins did four at what I'd consider the deluxe scale. Stupid stupid stupid.
     
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    No, i'm sorry. Both ladies are equally attractive to me. Now if one of them would be holding a giftwrapped TT Masterpiece Galvatron, Thundertron or BW TM Megatron you'd be onto a winner.

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    Or better yet: Galvatron dressed in a short yellow mini skirt. Hmmm
    It can be any size he wants.
     
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    So, it was Teen Titans Go?
     
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    There was nothing like the original G1 Transformers no matter how much SFX and comedy they add to the new movies...
     
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