Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Smashs, Jun 1, 2017.
No one wants Unicron to wake in TLK.
Because Unicron wakening would also destroy the human world.
Lots of reactions coming in on twitter right now, almost universally negative
So the app timeline is somewhat canon?
He is a non-Optimus-or-Bee-bot with longer screen time than most.
Oh, less than Cogman.
Seems replaceable for now. But he fought side by side with Bee in WWII, maybe more important than other bots in the future?
Nothing different then
IF YOU ARE IN THIS THREAD, ASSUME SPOILERS. SPOILERS BELOW!!!!!
Going to do some non specific feedback:
Overall - Thumbs up.
Tighter story than AoE. Movie has a good pace. Starts, shiz jumps off, keeps going. No lulls.
Lore WAS addressed in more depth than previous films. I wouldn't say it's Shakespeare, but it touches on and mentions a good amount of Transformers references from toons and books.
The movie overall didn't have a ton of surprises. Most of it we kinda pieced together by now. It was good seeing it all play out linearly though.
They did leave it open at the end, several points. We are jumping right into 6 with no soft reboot.
I like what they did with Lennox. It isn't as cut / dry as the trailers seem.
Simmons - glad they kept him involved.
Megatron was handled well. Welker's voice makes a ton of difference, has life to it.
The purple eyes on Prime, and the name he was given while in that mode, awesome.
Points I didn't care for:
Baby Dinobots - wtf, where, why, how.
If Quintessa created the Transformers, what's up with the Allspark.
The Cybertron attacking Earth bit. They had an explanation, then created another explanation for it to hang around, so that they could have time to stop the chaos. Unnecessary, didn't quite get it. They could have had it just be coming here to do the first thing, and then stop that from happening, basically the same way. All they had to do was remove and tweak a scene or two and it makes more sense.
Decepticons - looked like we were getting some characterization and then nope. Actually still better than past 4, but too short. Still cannon fodder in the end.
Do not understand how Bee spoke. Unless he was playing a recording of himself from earlier.
Merlin was Tucci. I have to eat my pants on that one. However, in this film, makes no sense. They did not connect it to Tucci's modern day character. Maybe down the road. That being said, if he does turn out to be actual Merlin from ancient times, living all this time, then Vivian's character could have been omitted since she was important because she was a descendant of Merlin.
Overall, it was a better ride than AOE. My personal ranking is the first movie, then DOTM. This is tied with DOTM in my opinion. I liked the visuals and action in DOTM better, but this is very close and had a deeper story.
I'll try to answer questions, but I'm not personally gonna go into specific spoilers till Wednesday.
Some guy on twitter said Prime is in the movie about 10 minutes of the 2 1/2 hour runtime? Is that accurate?
Obviously not. I would recommend you stop looking at those because half of them are careless statements of hate with no actual weight. At least here there are complaints that actually make sense.
I don't think that he has anything to do with Joshua so don't get your hopes up
Hope Carly didn't marry him then lol
Where can you see these? I suck at trying to find things on Twitter, the search function may as well not exist.
So Scorn is gone?
The spoilers, so far:
All Bots, except for Canopy, survive
Megs and Barricade are the only Cons to survive
Bee gets his real voice back and it saves Optimus
TRF makes a deal with Megs to hunt down Cade and kill the Bots
Quintessa wants to destroy Earth
Optimus is controlled by Quintessa
There are sanctuary countries for Bots, such as Cuba. Simmons, Roadbuster and Topspin are in Cuba
Grimlock, Slug, Strafe and baby dinobots are in TLK for a short period of time
Lennox betrays the Bots
Cogman does not transform
...Not sure how to feel about that.
Care to elaborate?
SO MUCH CONFUSING INFO
Some people say Roadbuster is in this, some say he isn't.
Can a person who has actually seen the film tell me the damn answer please?
Sometimes when I read twitter...I wonder when the entire world became Pawnee Indiana...
Lennox doesn't betray the Bots.
He's undercovered in TRF, trying to bring this organization down.
TRF kills Canopy because they thought Canopy is hostile to the kids.
But he still risks his own cover, when asking other TRF soilder to hold fire when Bumblebee's surrounded. Then the other Autobots show up, TRF had to let Bumblebee go.
It's too bad Tyrese was too busy filming Fast8 to come back to play Epps. I would have LOVED to have seen Epps drop kick Lennox for betraying their friends.
I thought he was the one to make the deal with Megatron though
The cool thing to do right now is bash Transformers on twitter, I do not believe it's that bad, god I hate critics, this is the type of movie you leave your brain at the gate and have fun, it's entertaining, but most of these critics do not understand the lore, so they will trash it
Ah ha! I knew straight up betrayal didn't seem right.
Spoiler: Yeah but...
He was under orders to do that so they could locate the staff, not to actually destroy Autobots. It was shady regardless though because it put ones they considered allies in harms way. But not a TRF level kill them all mentality.
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