TF:TM On TV

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  1. Moonscream

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    I'm hoping you guys can help with a debate I'm having with another member...

    When was TF:TM cut up into episodes and first added to the G1 cartoon's rotation? Was it added only in 'Season 5'? Or was it in the rotation before then? And was it 3 or 5 episodes? TF Wiki says 3 episodes but DrSpengler's work as listed on TFArchive says 5.

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  2. Optimus Kharnal

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    I thought it was Five.. and I would think it would have been put out in season 3 or 4 but I don't recall for sure.
     
  3. Roanstalker

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    Bwtf had it as five as well before the site was closed down.
     
  4. Ramrider

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    I didn't even know it was ever cut up for TV showing, but then I don't live in the States. Only times I've ever seen it on TV was as the whole movie.

    Logically, I'd have thought four, since each normal episode is what, 22 minutes?, and with the Movie coming in about an hour 25, four eps seems sensible.
    Seems like the general consensus is five, though. Go figure.
     
  5. Moonscream

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    Yeah, 5 is more likely...but what I'm wondering most is when it was first shown as part of the rotation.

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  6. cagliostro

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    I never saw it in the rotation of ep's as a kid (unlike the G.I. Joe movie) but my guess would be that if it was put in to the rotation it was cut up in to five episodes as that is what they did with the Joe movie.
     
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    I recall 5 parts and I think it was set in between the last episode of season 2 and Five Faces of Darkness (in case nobody saw the movie in theatres when the third season kicked off again)
     
  8. Moonscream

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    That's what I remember, starting sometime in early '87 I think. But I haven't found any proof to backup that memory yet.

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    Five parter, it started airing shortly before they did either Dark Awakening or Return of Optimus Prime, and that was when they added the part at the end about Prime returning.
     
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    Five parts for the movie.
     
  11. Ramrider

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    I'm not sure about that last part. When I saw the film at the flicks (UK, obv, late '86 IIRC), that was definitely in there. It might not have originally been in the US theatrical version, but it was in there some time before it would have been aired on TV, I'd have thought.
     
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    Are you sure about that cos i remember hearing that part when i saw the movie in the cinema in '86 (UK) That's what cheered me up after seeing Prime die

    Maybe i'm just imagining it:confused: 

    EDIT: Ramrider beat me to it
     
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    Not really helping answer the question, but I seem to remember it being cut into a few episodes and having a Beastwars "style" animated G1 Optimus Prime talking to a real boy about what was happening during the episodes between commercial breaks and the beginning and ending of the episode. I remember it airing earlier in the morning, like around 6-6:30 on the weekends. It's been years though, so my memory may have made mistakes with it.
     
  14. Chris McFeely

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    The missing time was made up in a couple of different ways. Like all the season 5 episodes, there were bumpers at the start and end of each episode featuring a stop-motion Powermaster Optimus Prime puppet talking to a human boy named Tommy Kennedy, and those killed a bit of time. But chiefly, part 5 was extended by having a VERY long recap of previous episodes, and then inserting "The Touch" music video at the end.
     
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    Is there anything you don't know..? :p 
     
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    So in other words the answers are 1988 and five parts. ;) 

    Got it.

    Thanks guys! :thumbs2: 

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  18. ambushbug74

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    This is exactly what I was thinking when I read this post. This is how I remember it airing.
     
  19. Chaos Sorcerer

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    It was 5 parts, and it did indeed show after rebirth as season 5. The reason it got broken in 5 parts as opposed to 4 was padding it out with crap... the episodes opened and ended (i think they also did a piece after commercial break) with a horribly bad looking "live action" Powermaster Prime (animatronic?) talking to some little blond kid, i think his name was tommy. Basically Prime "telling it like a story" to the kid, how it was their darkest hour or whatever. I dont really remember the details. IIRC they also re-showed episodes from season 1 and 2 with the same lead in live action parts, but I cant say for sure.

    edit: My bad, missed the post already covering this. Sorry. :lol 
     
  20. Chris McFeely

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    Yeah, to be precise, they re-did "More Than Meets the Eye," "Five Faces of Darkness," "Dark Awakening," "The Return of Optimus Prime," "The Rebirth" and the desperately-out-of-place "Surprise Party" in this live-action-buffered way along with the movie for this season.

    I don't see *how* the film could have aired in five parts between Seasons 2 and 3 - there's not enough of it there to make five parts without the modifications described above, and perhaps most importantly, FFoD was aired less than FOUR WEEKS after the movie opened in the US. There's no *way* a theatrical movie made it to TV that fast.

    I think this is a slight muddling of different things. It was "Dark Awakening" which was re-aired just before "The Return of Optimus Prime" aired (Season 3 sorta-ended with "The Burden Hardest to Bear" in November 1986, and RoOP, being a late-run addition to the season that came about as the result of crying children, didn't air until February 1987), and when the re-aired it, they added a line to the end about Prime coming back (to advertise RoOP).
     

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