Talk about Sony having faith in their new format...

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  1. Big Nine

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    That's what...5 years or more away?

    If he said that the PS4 would be a Blu-Ray drive, all the Sony haters would be like "OMG Sony is evil for not upgrading to a new format for their next system".

    Whatever, you guys have a field day with a comment that means nothing right now.
     
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    Playstation 4? Jeez, Sony. Bet anyone here that PS4's gonna cost an arm and a leg.
     
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    Phil Harrison has been talking about digital distribuition for six or seven years now. Now technology is catching up to that particular vision... isn't it really a kind of given?
     
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    I certainly wouldn't, and I seem to have gained some level of notoriety here for anti-Sony comments. The fact that they "upgraded" the disc format of the PS3 needlessly is a major part of where the Blu-Ray and pricepoint complaints come from in the first place. I might sneer at the decision for other Blu-Ray-related reasons, but not for the lack of a new media format.

    Anyway, this is something that people at Sony have said before, talking about wanting to move away from physical discs to all-online game purchases (you can't resell those, right?). I wouldn't put much stock in it, as it's just businessmen talking big about technology, and that nearly always ends up being laughable.
     
  6. CripNite

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    I'd be surprised if there is a PS4.
     
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    I suspect that there will be. People proclaimed the doom of Nintendo as far back as the early years of the N64, and now it looks like they're on the verge of a huge comeback. If the PS3 flops, we don't know how Sony will react. It's entirely possible that they could learn from their mistakes and move Sony Computer Entertainment in a new, more honest, more consumer-friendly direction in order to regain lost market share. I find it unlikely, but I would applaud and support such a change if it happened.
     
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    Well seeing blank blu-rays for 20 bucks a single Disk.. I doubt the blu-ray drives for computers will take off like Sony wants.
     
  9. McBradders

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    DVD's were also that expensive when they first hit.
     
  10. Joe Moore

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    I used to work at Office Max. I remember when we had a sale for a 2-pack of blank DVD's for $30. We sold out of them in less than 2 hours that Sunday.
     
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    PS4 = PC
     
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    They were also a much more significant and useful upgrade from the multiple rather old media formats they replaced (CD-ROM, VHS), as opposed to a moderate upgrade from one single comparatively recent technology. DVDs may have been that expensive, but at the time it was a better value for that cost. DVD also wasn't included in an outrageously expensive game console the first year it was made available to consumers.
     
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    What!? PS3=PC! :D 
     
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    Sony is going to kill their own format anyway. I dont see why they should have too much faith in it.

    and yes. PS3=PC :-D

    PS4 = wont exist

    :p 
     
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    Not a very good one. ;) 
     
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    I think Sony should hire people who know how to keep their traps shut, and I like sony products, hell my house is full of them.
    But the line between confidence and arrogance is very fine and they are waaaaaay over it lately
     
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    I would have thought so, yes. The article mentions how officially downloading games is hampered by internet connections peeds, but that is now; by the time PS4 comes out I wouldn't be surprised to see far faster connections than we have now; I mean, 5 years ago I was still on dialup. He may have a penchant for twatty soundbites, but to be honest I reckon Harrison's probably right on this one.
    Also, I wouldn't call it a "backhanded slap" for Blu-Ray at all; if a physical drive isn't needed for a games console, why bother putting it in at all.
     
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    Say what you will about ole Phil, but he knows his stuff. I remember scoffing at some of the stuff he said about DD back in the day, but now I suck at the teat of digital distribuition like a calf.

    Ok, it's Bill Gates' teat, but a teat it is.
     
  19. mrhillz

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    Well, I don't exactly like the idea of forcing DD onto people like that, it's good to have that option, but what about people that live in dial-up land? It would easily take them a week to download a game that they purchased.
     
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    Broadband was available to lots of people five years ago. There are STILL loads of people on dial-up. Five years from now, at least a considerable few households will probably still be on dialup, and although there may be much faster new connections available, most people will still be on what we consider broadband right now. That's not enough speed to be getting multi-gigabyte games exclusively over the Internet. An online-only console may be feasible in another ten or fifteen years, but not in five. To make it so that a significant portion of would-be buyers can't even use your product or at least can't use it conveniently is suicide.

    Besides that, even most of us who do buy a few games as online downloads still like physically owning larger games. It's nice to be able to play them off the disc or at least uninstall and store them without eating up hard drive space. Not to mention being able to take the games to a friend's house, play them on a newer console, and buy or sell them on the used market. That satisfaction of physical ownership is something I don't see changing no matter how the technology advances. This is also Sony we're talking about. Do you honestly think they're going to pass up the opportunity to try to push more new media formats? It's up to Ken Kutaragi anyway, not Harrison.

    Seriously, what Phil Harrison wants to sell you is the Infinium Phantom.
     

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