TakaraTomy Power Of The Primes Wave 2 And Wave 3

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Shin Densetsu, Jan 11, 2018 at 11:43 PM.

  1. Mattymo

    Mattymo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2017
    Posts:
    179
    Trophy Points:
    87
    Likes:
    +160

    The amount of denial is kind of amazing.

    First a reveal of news of lists of Wave one. People thinking the Dinobots terrorcons will be box sets And dreadwind And darkwing will be Hydra and buster in a two back

    Then Official statement saying they’re the same as Hasbro. Still people saying box sets

    Reveal pics of Wave one. People saying they’re just stock photos.

    Confirmation of pics. Still saying it’s not true and people need to contact Takara.

    More confirmation. More denial

    Now this revealing Wave 2 And 3.MORE DENIAL
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2018 at 2:53 PM
    • Like Like x 7
  2. Wh33l JcK

    Wh33l JcK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2014
    Posts:
    3,119
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +868
    My question is will the toon deco Dino's be released by Hasbro as exclusives?

    I do hope they are released somehow. Not as exclusives though.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. W-P38

    W-P38 Decepticon Philosopher

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2007
    Posts:
    229
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    117
    Likes:
    +83
    Here we go again with Takara vs Hasbro. Even the news post is biased, claiming no more Takara "improvements".

    Most "improvements" are just anime-based changes. If it's G1, the original toys are the definitive design; the animation, in any case, ALWAYS came second. Hasbro, for the most part, has been reproducing G1 in an updated form in relation to the definitive, original toys. Takara's are certainly not categorical "improvements", at all. Just a different take.

    I'm happy to pick up TT on occasion (out of Prime Wars, it's been Legends Godbomber, Legends Galvatron, and UW Menasor), but I'm indifferent to their decision to release the POTP line without changes. If anything, it's refreshing.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  4. Acteon

    Acteon Overworked

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2004
    Posts:
    2,069
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +476
    Ebay:
    Having just picked up Legends Slugslinger, I do think its a shame that we're losing the extra gloss from Takara's releases, but makes me appreciate the ones I have that much more. I will miss the fun of seeing the different approaches as it's one of my favourite things about the hobby. I am glad that we got the Targetmasters done properly with their weapon partners, and I guess its over to Hasbro to wow us now. So far with POTP I've been happy with what they've been doing.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  5. Wh33l JcK

    Wh33l JcK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2014
    Posts:
    3,119
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +868
    I hope the next opportunity we get an interview with Warden we can get an explanation about is going on here...

    Why is this happening? What can we expect in terms of Toon Deco releases?
     
    • Like Like x 2
  6. Phenotype

    Phenotype Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2004
    Posts:
    173
    Trophy Points:
    122
    Likes:
    +60
    Money. It's cheaper to do one large production run. I'm 100% sure this all comes down to saving money.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  7. General Tekno

    General Tekno Self-Styled #1 Lugnut Fan

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2006
    Posts:
    10,296
    News Credits:
    228
    Trophy Points:
    342
    Location:
    The Teknodrome
    Likes:
    +633
    I gotta be honest - much as I think this kinda sucks for the toy quality, ON THE OTHER HAND my wallet is perfectly fine with this as it means less importing/doubledipping in 2018.
     
    • Like Like x 5
  8. Wh33l JcK

    Wh33l JcK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2014
    Posts:
    3,119
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +868
    Toon Deco's is leaving money on the table though. I know they will release the Dinobots in toon deco one way or there other. Just wondering how they will release it?

    Part of me thinks the Hasbro folks were just tired of getting shown up by Takara, and they were sick of answering questions about bringing over the Takara remolds ? It just puts them in an odd position and makes them look bad.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  9. payres

    payres Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2002
    Posts:
    6,461
    News Credits:
    112
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +1,903
    Ebay:
    Figure King #239 Details - "unifying the world brands on an unprecedented scale"
     
  10. T-Hybrid

    T-Hybrid Undersea Warrior

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2006
    Posts:
    11,237
    News Credits:
    21
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +3,526
    If Takara thought they'd make more money by doing Toon Deco they'd do it. If they aren't, odds are it meant they weren't making enough to be worth it.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  11. [Wing_Saber-X]

    [Wing_Saber-X] Great Shot!

    Joined:
    May 24, 2004
    Posts:
    20,532
    News Credits:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    362
    Likes:
    +2,638
    This. Hasbro is playing chicken. Cluck ..cluck..cluck.
     
  12. VenomGTSR

    VenomGTSR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2016
    Posts:
    471
    Trophy Points:
    122
    Likes:
    +340
    I don't think choice is a bad thing though. I personally went about 50/50 CW and UW combiners. I preferred the better paint and cartoon decos but also the better overall tolerances. This is totally anecdotal but my UW stuff had tighter joints than Hasbro. I just picked up a second Swoop because the first was so poor it couldn't be used in limb mode.

    Having said that, I'm not surprised by this-they did say they were aligning the product offerings but I could see how that left hope for still getting upgraded paint apps. Oh well, hopefully Hasbro can step up their game.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. [Wing_Saber-X]

    [Wing_Saber-X] Great Shot!

    Joined:
    May 24, 2004
    Posts:
    20,532
    News Credits:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    362
    Likes:
    +2,638
    There is always money to be made if you are "Takarafying" your transformers..;) 
     
  14. Knightsword

    Knightsword Fire in the North TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2003
    Posts:
    4,064
    News Credits:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    322
    Location:
    Minneapolis
    Likes:
    +783
    Ebay:
    Facebook:
    Twitter:
    Google+:
    Instagram:
    Flickr:
    YouTube:
    Tumblr:
    Pinterest:
    Again how many time does it need to be said, Takara loses more and more money each year and it's gonna be even more this year since they lost the Pokemon license.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  15. optimusmegas

    optimusmegas Soleron

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2007
    Posts:
    4,192
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +1,439
    Ebay:
    apparently there isn't otherwise this line would still be under the legends banner and the dinobots would be the return of UW...

    this is about money and takara isn't making it...period
     
    • Like Like x 1
  16. Dinobot Grimlock

    Dinobot Grimlock Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2017
    Posts:
    129
    Trophy Points:
    62
    Location:
    Kuantan, Pahang
    Likes:
    +93
    Twitter:
    I can wait to have Power of the Primes Dinobots
     
  17. Afterburner

    Afterburner For your health

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2003
    Posts:
    4,729
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +689
    We see the same poor business arguments here yet again. You have to spend money to make money - yes TakaraTomy is clearly cutting costs, but when sales fall equally or more it is all for naught. Not to mention losing all of your goodwill and brand prestige. I would be very surprised if this does anything but accelerate any decline in the brand.

    Who would this move excite? Nobody, and there is your problem summed up very simply.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  18. [Wing_Saber-X]

    [Wing_Saber-X] Great Shot!

    Joined:
    May 24, 2004
    Posts:
    20,532
    News Credits:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    362
    Likes:
    +2,638
    The shit is going to hit the fan for sure. Im really worried for Takara's wellbeing now...
     
  19. YoungPrime

    YoungPrime Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2004
    Posts:
    5,980
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +1,293
    I'm actually glad they're not a set. Takara has been dropping the ball with their version lately anyway...

    BUT!

    If they do release an individual Hun-Garr that has vastly better quality than Hasbro's version then I'll pre-order it on sight! If not... Oh well.

    What's "Alchemist Prime", a Prime Master?
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2018 at 12:37 PM
    • Like Like x 1
  20. figureguy

    figureguy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2006
    Posts:
    570
    Trophy Points:
    157
    Likes:
    +7
    But if the TT figures are the same as the Hasbro ones, why are the deluxes in Waves 2 and 3 priced $5 more than Jazz in wave one? BBTS has them at $30. The plot thickens....hope refuses to die for those who want the TT releases to be better but know they won't.






    (I am one of those who continue to hold out for TT accurate paint jobs.......UW Abominus you are our only hope)
     
    • Like Like x 1

Share This Page