Takara Primes: Oversea Stores vs. US based Store

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  1. exomega255

    exomega255 Emerald Green

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    So part of my order shipped from BBTS, and I guess this is just one of those, if someone wants to consider buying Takara Prime figures, where to get them.
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    This is my HLJ order:
    TKT43789 AM-02 Bumblebee 1 ¥1,600 ¥1,600
    TKT43790 AM-01 Optimus Prime 1 ¥3,200 ¥3,200
    TKT43791 AM-03 Cliffjumper 1 ¥1,600 ¥1,600
    TKT43792 AM-04 Rachet 1 ¥1,600 ¥1,600
    TKT43793 AM-05 Megatron 1 ¥1,600 ¥1,600
    TKT43794 AM-06 Skywarp 1 ¥1,600 ¥1,600
    Merchandise Total: ¥11,200
    Shipping: ¥2,960
    Total: ¥14,160

    Total, after shipping is 14160 Yen. The conversation of Paypal is around 80.5 Yen per dollar (man, on google it says 82.5 but w/e, /shakes fist at PP)

    So I paid:

    139$ USD + 36.8$ USD Shipping = approx 176$ USD


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    In Comparison: BBTS:

    AM-01: 59.99
    AM-02: 37.99
    AM-03: 37.99
    AM-04: 37.99
    AM-05: 37.99
    AM-06: 37.99

    Total prior to shipping: 249.94

    Using PoL (best case scenario): it's +.99 cents per item on shipping.

    Total shipped (PoL used): 255.88

    Without PoL, UPS Ground (cheapest option): 10.29 approx.

    Total Shipped (PoL NOT used): 260.23

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    Total difference: 255.88 - 176 = 79.88 ~~ approx 80$ on 6 Takara Figures.


    Difference between HLJ and BBTS: Customer Service.

    So bottomline is: if you want better customer service and think it's worth 80$ (for the first 6 in stock Takara Prime figs), go with BBTS (or TFS).

    If you want to save 80$ for 6 figures, go with HLJ (or Amiami)
     
  2. Knightdramon

    Knightdramon Hasbro LIES to the US

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    HLJ won't spit on you if you report an order problem, neither will amiami. Just so we get that "service versus price" out of the way first.

    Furthermore, BBTS and any other US\not asia based retailer has to import the takara figures, which is more expensive AND make a profit on top of that.

    Hence why any imported deluxe is almost at 40 USD while it's barely 25 USD before shipping from a japanese retailer.

    I got charged for my masterpiece 11 starscream from amiami on saturday. It cost me 164 USD with EMS shipping from Japan to Europe. At BBTS before any sort of shipping it still costs 159.99 USD.
     
  3. exomega255

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    I am aware =) I actually don't really play favorites. It's really just a balance of whomever is cheaper and would make it easier to return, etc.

    I have nothing but good things to say about amiami and HLJ tbh.
     
  4. [Wing_Saber-X]

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    What about Robotkingdom and etoysjapan? :D 
     
  5. exomega255

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    I don't use eTJ. so I cannot comment. I believe RK in Takara items are generally slightly higher priced compared to stores directly in Japan (HLJ and Amiami). I use RK mostly for Chinese based 3rd party group.
     
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    kewl. maybe u should try eTJ? IMHO just check to get the best deals around. no harm, right? ;)  :D 
     
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    I've never heard of HLJ, but they do seem cheaper than BBTS (which I've used three times so far with ZERO complaints).

    Can you put a link to their site? Or tell me with the HLJ stands for?
     
  8. [Wing_Saber-X]

    [Wing_Saber-X] Fortress Maximus!

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    HLJ = Hobby Link Japan. and the link is on the very website! it's a TFW2005 sponsor! ;) 
     
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    doesn't ordering from HLJ open yourself up to potentially huge duty fees?
     
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    It varies by country, but here in the US we do not pay import fees.
     
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    I was only doing the analysis for US. Sorry =)
     
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    why the need to apologize? :D 
    nothing wrong in giving people some neat options where and when to decide to get their TF fix, right? :D 
     
  13. Big Dawg

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    hey no problem man. I always have it in my mind after getting hit by some large import fees in the past. I even have a local buddy who imports toys from over there and his prices aren't much better than BBTS, especially on Has/Tak products after duties etc (I'm in Canada).
     
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    And just to echo what exo said,it's almost always cheaper to import from overseas. Even with the more costly shipping, you will usually pay less all things considered. The advantages of ordering domestically generally come down to convenience.

    Again, I can't speak for VAT, import fees, etc.
     
  15. lars573

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    No, where do people get this idea? The only thing private citizens might have to pay is sales taxes, plus an $8 fee for the pleasure of paying said sales taxes. The only thing I've ever had to pay was Nova Scotias HST (15%) plus the Canada post fees ($8). Now that's not to say that if your a business there isn't import tariffs on toys. But not for private individuals.


    But for the sake of arguement I'll run through this for Automaton toys.

    AM-01: 62.99
    AM-02: 37.99
    AM-03: 37.99
    AM-04: 37.99
    AM-05: 37.99
    AM-06: 37.99

    total: $252.94+5% (if not in Quebec, 14.975% if you are) so $265.59. Shipping might be a bit trickerier. That many items might not qualify for the $9.99 flat shipping rate. But assuming that all six could fit in a 2' cube box.
    $265.59+$10.49 ($9.99+5%)=$276.08 CAD.
     
  16. Big Dawg

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    From Canada Post's website:

    "Mail items containing merchandise enter Canada through CBSA screening centres, are inspected by CBSA Officers and assessed for applicable customs duties, taxes and charges. If duties and/or taxes are owed, items will be delivered along with the E14 Customs Invoice indicating the amount that the addressee must pay before the package can be released to them. Canada Post collects the fees on behalf of the CBSA and accepts the following methods of payment:"
     
  17. Knightdramon

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    USA has no import duties for collectible items.

    Europe, Canada and Asia do. Within Europe it's trickier, some countries have very, VERY lax duties [like Greece, I haven't paid customs for three huge box orders of over 300 USD each] whilst others have very strict rules and duties [Italy is prohibitively notorious].

    Most [US based, and some EU based] people that purchase takara items from BBTS or any other american\european retailer do it either because combining it with their existing POL they are actually saving money or for ease of mind.

    Much like how I've said in the past, with minimal exceptions, when trying to import, import from the country the item is released at.
     
  18. lars573

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    Here's a list of what you have to pay duty on:
    -cigarettes
    -gasoline
    -alcohol
    -cars (that don't meet Canadian emission regs)
    -vehicle air conditioners
     
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    Cool. I was at the right place...but finding Transformers there is a bit tricky. lol I was able to finally find the AM figures, but was hoping that they would have some FE figures. :(  If I ever plan on getting something over-seas, I will give this site a try.
     
  20. Big Dawg

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    are you actually quoting something or making this up. I cut and paste from Canadapost's website- you post with heresay and conjecture. I have a friend that actively imports things from China and he has to pay duty on all Has/Tak products. Here is a cut and paste from Canada post site:

    2.2.2 Mail Items Valued at Less Than $20CDN

    The CBSA does not assess duty or tax on mail items valued at $20CDN or less. However, this general rule does not apply to certain products including intoxicating beverages, cigars, cigarettes, manufactured tobacco, and publications where the supplier is required to register under the Excise Tax Act. Also, this may not be combined with other exemptions.

    The CBSA does not consider items to be of low value in cases where a single transaction is split into smaller shipments to keep the value below $20CDN.

    2.2.3 Gifts

    Gifts from friends and relatives, valued at $60CDN or less, are duty and tax exempt. In cases where the gift is valued at more than $60CDN, the CBSA will assess duties and taxes on the excess amount. The gift must be sent to the recipient personally and include a card or other notice indicating that it is a gift. Items that do not qualify as gifts include:

    tobacco
    intoxicating beverages
    advertising material
    items sent by a business to a consumer in Canada and vice versa.


    and from the govt of Canada site:

    The item’s value in Canadian dollars
    Under the provisions of the Postal Imports Remission Order, if someone mails you an item worth CAN$20 or less, you don’t have to pay duty or taxes on the item. If the item is worth more than CAN$20, you must pay the applicable duty, the GST or HST, and any PST on the item’s full value.

    Items that do not qualify for the CAN$20 exemption include the following:

    tobacco;
    books;
    periodicals;
    magazines;
    alcoholic beverages; and
    goods ordered through a Canadian post office box or a Canadian intermediary
     

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