These bots are actually complete but I thought I would share some wip shots before I post the ones of the completed project. there are a few things in there that might be of some use to folks who want to do this or something similar. the quick run down. g1 sureshot. ball joint neck. wings off classics starscream fins. shoulders joints - camara dude from first movie toy line? hands cast off revoltech figure. side panels off model kit. waist rotation - a part off classic starsream. crotch plate - classic starscream again. legs - modified energon rodimus + sureshot's feet - scratch built tires are off lego Racers spoilsport is spoisport with articulation. ball joints courtesy of mini neo shifter dudes. anyway, less words/ more pics. thanks for looking guys.