Student arrested for essay's imaginary violence

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Dark_Convoy, May 10, 2007.

  1. Dark_Convoy

    Dark_Convoy Old Bastard Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2002
    Posts:
    17,201
    Trophy Points:
    271
    Likes:
    +0
  2. Jux

    Jux Please, call me Steve. Veteran

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2002
    Posts:
    22,664
    Trophy Points:
    296
    Likes:
    +0
    Now THAT'S a funny cat sig.


    ... sorry.
     
  3. defstar

    defstar Autobot...

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2007
    Posts:
    3,592
    Trophy Points:
    167
    Likes:
    +1
    You gotta be number one: sick...and number two: stupid...to write something like this for a school paper...especially with what we are going through in todays school violence...

    I can understand writting a war story or about a battle and someone getting hurt/killed...but to ramble on about mindless killing thoughts...

    Just stupid...
     
  4. highlander3000

    highlander3000 Jump around!

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2005
    Posts:
    1,370
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Likes:
    +3
    That was a stupid thing to do. HOWEVER, that was a dumb assingment too. It just invites this sort of of nonsense.
     
  5. Lord Megatron

    Lord Megatron FFFF

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2005
    Posts:
    1,640
    Trophy Points:
    161
    Likes:
    +0
    The assignment should have read: "Write whatever comes to mind, but it can't be violent or offensive. It has to be all sunshine, rainbows, and giggling children. Do not censor yourself, unless it has sex or drugs or violence. We're all pussies here, offended by a few words, so do your best to not express yourself."
     
  6. MegaMoonMan

    MegaMoonMan www.megamoonman.com TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2004
    Posts:
    17,237
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    322
    Likes:
    +31
    Ebay:
    YouTube:
    Wrong. You don't have to be either of those things when you're told to express your feelings in an uncensored manner on a creative writing assignment to come up with what he did.

    He probably should have used better judgment before handing that in, though.
     
  7. Bryan

    Bryan ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2005
    Posts:
    9,020
    Trophy Points:
    211
    Likes:
    +0
    I don't see that at all. He followed the directions. To me, pretending that people don't indulge in violent thoughts is stupid. Normal, healthy people can have thoughts just like that, and denying that is a head-in-the-sand mentality

    Far as writing war stories--what, fantasizing about killing people in combat is inherently healthier than fantasizing about killing people at a school? Dead is dead.
     
  8. megatroptimus

    megatroptimus Translatorminator

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2006
    Posts:
    19,664
    News Credits:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    302
    Likes:
    +61
  9. netkid

    netkid Where's my Goddamn shoe!

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Posts:
    11,230
    News Credits:
    32
    Trophy Points:
    277
    Likes:
    +50
    *STORY TIME*
    Something Similar Happened To Me A Long Time Ago...

    A long time ago, back in my 8th grade English class, we had a group writing session.

    The kids would write down a topic or theme on a small piece of paper and place it into a big hat.
    Then, we would each pick a small piece of paper from a hat and what ever was on that paper, you had to write a 2-page story about it.

    I wrote down "robots" (hey, I like transformers) and placed it into the hat.

    Some kids got topics like "rainy days" or "sports cars" while others got wacky topics like "farts" and "poo". (I know, we were little tricksters back then)

    One of my friends got the "poo" topic. He was "delighted" to say the least.
    ...
    ...
    ...
    I got "You ass-------ing the President". $#@%!!! I said to myself. This won't end well.

    This was especially bad because 9-11 just happened and I had real respect for the President and our Armed Forces.

    I quickly asked a bunch of other kids if they wanted to trade topics but they refused because of the topic I had received, looking at me like I was cursed or had some killer South American monkey super-virus.
    I then asked my teacher, but before I could tell her my topic, she strictly (and somewhat angrily) made it clear to me that I HAD to write about the topic I got. (she was pregnant with her first kid and in a bit of a mood swing that day).

    So, I did my assignment as instructed. The next day, the school (and my parents) call me in the school office to question me, to which I explain exactly what the situation was and why I had no choice but to do the assignment (my grade was not good at the time and could use the points boost).

    In the end,
    I'm in no trouble at all, but my English teacher ALMOST got fired. It sucked too because she was a very nice lady and she was about to have a kid. Well, it was out of her control because it was the kids who submitted topics into the hat, not her. She learned not to try that class activity again.
    _________________________________________________________________

    >>>Long story short people, if you're an English or Writing teacher, and you want your class to write about a randomly received topic or write about ANYTHING, PLEASE, just please set some guidelines on what you can and cannot write about. It may save people from unwanted trouble.
     
  10. IACON

    IACON "That's Vector Sigma?" TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2005
    Posts:
    4,048
    Trophy Points:
    216
    Likes:
    +5
    what a screwball...
     
  11. smkspy

    smkspy is one nice fucking kitty

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2004
    Posts:
    20,316
    Trophy Points:
    322
    Likes:
    +81
    Bye Bye First Amendment :::Me waving as it goes down the road::::
     
  12. Random Autobot

    Random Autobot Soviet Kanukistani

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2003
    Posts:
    6,608
    Trophy Points:
    211
    Likes:
    +0
    Panic stricken idiots FTW!
     
  13. Team Jetfire

    Team Jetfire Pop-POP!

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2006
    Posts:
    5,889
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +13
    Once bitten...

    The school overreacted...the situation should have been discussed with the kid and the father.

    These types of things are warning signs, not pre-cursers to an eventual killing spree.

    That being said, ...you know your messed up, when the first thing that you think about while creative writing is having sex with dead bodies, wtf?
     
  14. Random Autobot

    Random Autobot Soviet Kanukistani

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2003
    Posts:
    6,608
    Trophy Points:
    211
    Likes:
    +0
    He was recounting a dream he had. Dreams can be fucked up. FUCKED UP. We've all had bizarre dreams, at one point or another, and anyone who claims not to have is either the most boring git on the planet, or a liar.

    I've read published novels that cover similar topics, I don;t see why this kid should be arrested when Anne Rice is allowed to make millions of dollars writing about things of a similar nature.
     
  15. Draven

    Draven Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2002
    Posts:
    23,860
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    286
    Likes:
    +5
    ...
    They should have called the assignment "Think nice thoughts, and write them down."
     
  16. Team Jetfire

    Team Jetfire Pop-POP!

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2006
    Posts:
    5,889
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +13
    It wasn't a dream, He came up with in his own funcked up mind...

    Again, should not be arrested...but he did come up with some pretty disturbing stuff that should be explored a little bit.

    And I never have once dreamed of having sex with dead bodies, so I guess I'm boring.
     
  17. Dark_Convoy

    Dark_Convoy Old Bastard Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2002
    Posts:
    17,201
    Trophy Points:
    271
    Likes:
    +0
    No shit, this type of thing is getting way out of hand.

    So, for now on if someone is considered "not utterly harmless" we are going to throw them in jail.

    Seriously What the fuck.
     
  18. defstar

    defstar Autobot...

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2007
    Posts:
    3,592
    Trophy Points:
    167
    Likes:
    +1

    Well when you add joking about having sex with dead people it kind of pushes it over the limit IMO...

    As far as the school turning him in...that was just a CYA move...if they didn't and the kid came back a week later and acted on what he wrote...it would all fall back on them...
     
  19. Spartan-117

    Spartan-117 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2003
    Posts:
    1,813
    Trophy Points:
    161
    Likes:
    +0
    I can see why the school reacted the way it did but I don't think there's neccesarily anything wrong with the kid. Everyone has fucked up dreams.
     
  20. Random Autobot

    Random Autobot Soviet Kanukistani

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2003
    Posts:
    6,608
    Trophy Points:
    211
    Likes:
    +0
    I didn't specify sex with the dead, I said dreaming about fucked up things in general.

    Now, if this guys creative writing project needs to be "explored" because he could, one day, possibly, act out on these imaginings, does this not mean any published author who writes about similar things should also be explored? Should we have our eye on the guy who wrote "American Psycho'?
     

Share This Page