Stub out time for Scotland.

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  1. Boardwise

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    I kinda have mixed feelings about this.
    I'm all for people who don't smoke to be able to enjoy pubs and clubs without a smoky atmosphere, but on the other hand I feel it that it kinda victimises smokers.

    Still, I know of a few puns in Edinburgh that’ll be better with the ban and a few people that won’t be happy with it.
     
  2. TheIncredibleHulk

    TheIncredibleHulk Find Gary Busey!

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    I know where this is headed..........

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  3. Mumps

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    Good, now I am one step closer to my dream of being able to go to that country.

    Smokers make me sick. No, I am not just saying that, I breathe in a little bit of smoke, and I have to head to the nearest bathroom and hug the toilet for a bit. It's that bad with me...

    So, sorry to sound bitter, but it puts a smile on my face whenever I hear something that makes it harder for those who choose the slow suicide that is smoking.
     
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    It does. This legislation has removed not only the rights of smokers, but also the rights of the owners of these premises to allow smoking or not. Still, never mind. I'm sure that the rabid anti-smoking assholes who bullied this through in the UK as well will be able to find something else to whine about easily enough. Their kind always do.
    Couldn't agree more. I will continue to smoke in public for as long as I am allowed to. Why/ because up until then, it will still be my right to do so. And if anyone whines at me about it, I'll tell them to fuck off. I've never done that before, but considering how irritating it is to have people do such things as purposely cross the street JUST to pretend to cough at you (which I had earlier today), I am willing to start.
    Oh. And before anyone has a go at me about this post (especially anti-smokers), bear this in mind: I really don't care.
     
  5. Omnibus Prime

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    So, when the anti-smoking zealots finally get their way and just make cigarettes fucking illegal...are they going to go out and get real jobs? Or are they just going to redirect their efforts toward soda/fast food, which have only been peripherally maligned up to this point, with impunity...and taxpayer money.
     
  6. DevilzFan

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    Ouch. I hate to hear these things. More personal freedoms being taken from people. I don't smoke, but I know where this shit is headed. They took away a personal freedom, not only from smokers, but from business owners themselves.

    The same thing goes into effect here next month. They're expecting roughly 30-45% of Bars and restaurants to go out of business within 2 years because of it, as has happened in other states that have passed similar laws.

    I just don't get this "law" at all. There were already quite a few places that banned smoking on their own. Which is great. A business owner should have that choice, and not be forced into it by the government and these moron crusaders.

    Oh, and on a side note to the law passed here in the corrupt state of New Jersey. Because it's all about money, and lining the politicians pockets, they will still allow smoking at Casino's in Atlantic City. :rolleyes: 
     
  7. Mumps

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    What smokers don't understand is how it affects some people. I can't go to the bar with my friends because of the smoke. I can hardly walk downtown without almost passing out, or at least going into coughing fits worse than the smokers themselves! In my class there are some smokers, and I am forced to work with them in some labs. They stink! I smell it, and my body reacts. I don't like this, and I can't help it.

    I know somebody who is 10x worse off than me. He gets ANY smoke in his lungs, and he gets really sick, and needs to be admitted into the hospital.

    No smoker understands what it's like to be me, or anybody who can't handle it. They all think I am one of those assholes out to ruin their lives. No, I am just looking out for myself, and those others who can't handle it. Though I do feel pleasure when smokers get the short end of the stick.

    If you hate me for this, then fine. You are no better than the people who annoy you.
     
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    My own thoughts on the matter.

    I can't stand the smell of smoke. I can't stand the smell of a smokER. The person who has that smell embedded in their clothing, hair and even skin smells even more revolting than the cigarette its self.

    There is a question of personal freedom to smoke, but what about the personal freedom of others to NOT smoke? Every Tuesday night I go to my favorite bar/wing place and enjoy a few drinks and a plate of wings. However the smoke permiates the place so much that I go to bed with a pounding headache later.

    (yes their wings are that damn good)

    lately I've taken to calling in my order, popping in for them and just keeping a good supply of liquer at my house. Not as much fun but I'd like to have wings, drinks, and oxygen not just two out of three.

    But I ask why do I have to be confined to my home? Essentially smokers are complaining about having done to them exactly what they do to others.

    The law isnt' really even prohibiting smoking in bars and resturaunts just enforcing smoking and non smoking areas. I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who once said "My right to swing my fists stops at the next man's nose."
     
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    Hey, we did this in Washington, no smoking within like 20 feet of public buildings. Although I still see people smoke at my high school. Not students surprisingly, but parents smoking in their cars in the parking lot. Hell, they Sysco guy was smoking in his truck in the lot. So that's another problem to deal with. And Mumps, I'm like you, whenever I smell smoke, I just feel like I'm gonna throw up. This is a problem considering my mom smokes. She'll come in the house wreaking of cigarettes, and I can't even be within the same half of the house as her.
     
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    i hate smoke too, but i hate PCness even more. fuck. that. shit.
     
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    Another one bites the dust... I guess my wonderful state of California is to be thanked??? I used to smoke... And I went to college in Vegas where smoking is big... And yes, I do believe that people's rights are being violated with smoking being banned this way and that...

    While it is nice to enjoy a meal now without the smoky air, it is sad to see smokers become chastized because of that...

    On the other hand, I haven't smoked since I quit in college and last winter I went back to Shanghai and could barely breathe there... Cigarettes are HUGE in China and people there smoke packs like there's no tomorrow... The one thing that astonished me was going out to eat and people would smoke WHILE THEY ATE... Doesn't that make the food taste NASTY??? Couldn't they wait until AFTER they finished eating to light up??? I know I would've... I like to taste the food, not the smoke...

    Granted, somethings go GREAT with a cigarette, like coffee... But stuff like salad, sushi, and other foods in general??? I dunno, it just seems like it messes with your tastebuds too much...
     
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    Except that there is no provision for the owners of places to even have that choice.
    Another right bites the dust. PC assholes.
     
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    Rights? What about my right to hang out with my friends and not be made ill by what other people are doing? What about the right of the non smoking bar staff to be able to go about their work in a healthy environment?
    I've got a goddamn right to eat a meal or have a drink without being gassed by another persons habit. All I ever here is smokers crying but how would you like it if you had to sit and eat a meal surrounded by drug addicts and had to step over used needles to get to the bathroom or you where one of the staff that had to clear them off the table?
    Anyone who says they wouldn't mind is a liar.
    If you want to smoke at home, that's fine. If you want to smoke out in the open air, that's also fine. However why should every other person in a room have your habit forced upon them? They shouldn't have to and that's all there is to it.
    Maybe all the smokers will finally understand what it's like to be forced out into the cold just to fucking breathe, huh?
     
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    What about MY right to have a cigarette in peace, without being hassled by some rabid fuckwit? Or to go to a pub and not get shit from some drunken asshole who's had one too many? Ban DRINKING. And ban whiny bitches who never shut the fuck up.
    And I've got a Goddamn right to not have some whiny little turd bawling at me every five fucking minutes.
    When I stop being accosted by whiny little shitheads who move towards me from a distance just to bitch about me smoking nowhere fucking near them, I'll start to have sympathy for non-smokers.
    Unless you live in some sort of addict-infested shithole, I highly doubt you're hearing smokers drawing any form of analogy about what they do being wrong.

    When the government stops taxing tobacco (since they clearly don't like it, and yet they still make a fucking fortune off it. Fucking hypocritical bastards), I'll start to have sympathy for that frankly bullshit argument.

    I intend to be smoking in pubs and clubs RIGHT up until the ban in England comes into effect. And I intend to enjoy every single smoke. And I intend to tell anyone who hassles me about it to c**t off.
    I can't wait until some PC tossarse puts some form of legislation through that removes one of YOUR rights. Let's see how you react, hmm? I'll be first in the queue to reply with a post full of smileys.
     
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    Cry. Whine. Blah. Boo hoo.

    This is coming into affect in London soon too. This is typical bullshit, if they want it banned then ban it altogether, banning if from public places is going to do nothing.

    Until then, call me Mr. Chimney! Yeahah!
     
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    ...well then shit.

    I dont smoke, or anything and Over the years ?I grew acostumed to smiking having a heavy smoking family and friends, so I dont bother, granted is like crap in my lungs and try to hold my breath if its way to concentrated.

    I think that OWNERS should be the ones who decide this.

    fuck PC
     
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    Smokers can go without a smoke every once and a while.

    Those of us who can not even go near an establishment that allows smoking, will forever be shunned from enjoying a few drinks with their buddies. Or the Stanley Cup finals game at the local pub. Or that concert you have been wanting to see for ages, only to find out they are playing in the bar at your collage...

    I will say it again. It doesn't kill a smoker to butt out for a few hours, minutes even. But it does kill some of us non-smokers who can not physically handle it. I don't like being this way, I don't want to be this way. I've lost friendships for being this way, and I can't help it god dammit! I've lost the respect of all but 2 people in my class because they think I am a whiny asshole for not going to the bar with them. They think it's all in my head. Let me tell you, if I could give you smokers this feeling for one day, you would all quit.
     
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    Personally I do not approve of anything that removes people's rights.

    You choose to smoke, so be it. It's your decision, not mine. Just as I decide to drink a few beers, which will probably kill me just as fast as smoking does to a smoker.

    However, I really can't stand bad manners. I do not force beer into people's gullets in a resturant, so why should I have to smoke someone else's smoke? It's not like I have a choice in the matter, there I am enjoying a meal and then someone nearby sparks one up and ruins my meal. Thank you you inconsiderate fuck head. I wouldn't mind so much but some smokers are just very, very inconsiderate. Normally, I hate to say it, it's the women. They finish their meals, and spark up straight away, whilst blabbering to their equally dim-witted chain-smoking arsehole friends. If you can't be bothered to have decent manners and be considerate to those around you, you deserve to be punished.

    I'm all for allowing people to smoke in clubs and pubs, hell, it's expected, you're not going to ruin my evening and my drink (beer tastes like beer no matter what your fucking do to it). But resturants? Where smoke completely alters the taste of my meal? A ban is a good thing.

    And yes, I used to be a smoker.
     
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    You seem awfully concerned about yourself and no one else, but the situation can easily be turned around on you. So the smokers are supposed to adjust to you, but you get to keep on being yourself without adjusting to the smokers? You don't like the smell of smoke? I don't like the sound of rap or the sight of people bumping and grinding their asses together, but that's what the bar scene is like around here. I don't go in and start bitching until people do things my way, I go in there and see whats going on and just bite my lip, have a few drinks, and start acting as stupid as I think the people that are dancing are.

    I smoke and sometimes I even get sick of how much smoke can be in a club, but I go to the clubs and bars to have fun, so I just ignore it and do what I set out to do, have fun.
     
  20. Mumps

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    You take what I am saying the worng way.

    If you read my past posts, I mention other people. Yes, I am concerned about myself. But I am also concerned about the other people who can't take it. I can't go near smokers. I absolutely can not. It's a physical problem with my own body. And there are people who are worse than me. As I mentioned before, there is someone I know who if his lungs are exposed to even a little smoke he is admitted into the hospital! Me and him are not the only people who are affected by smoke. There are others, many others. And just like you so easily demonstrated, smokers just don't understand, nor do they care what it does to some people. It's not as simple as not liking the smell. Sure, it's not pleasent to be around that smell, but I can not go around it, and neither can a lot of people.
    I AM SICK OF PEOPLE SAYING IT'S JUST IN MY HEAD!

    What I want is for places to be able to accomodate everybody. Not just people who can handle smoke, but for those of us who can not.
     

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