Starscream VS Megatron

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  1. Joalro

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    Alright Primers (Fans of TF: Prime)

    We are just over a week away from getting some more of the greatness that is TF prime. I think it's time to do some early character discussion.

    The topic today is, should Starscream be leader?

    Since the first episode of G1, we have known that Starscream has wanted Megatron's position of power. Since then there have been several Starscreams and several Megatrons each with slightly varying personalities. But one thing has remained constant, Starscream's desire of Power. I have seen very few Starscreams smart enough to get it, but now things might be different.

    In Prime, Megatron has many traits similar to previous Megatrons. He really likes plans that a dramatic. He won't simply shoot down his enemies, no. He must create a plan that takes them down in the most elaborate way possible. He doesn't want to win, he wants his enemies to TRULY lose.

    Starscream, however (or at the very least, THIS Starscream) is more about means to an end. Take down the autobots now, and quickly. Find the most direct route to victory. Far from glamorous, Starscream looks for effective.

    Let's look at some examples:

    Starscream killed Cliffjumper. He did it promptly with one knifey hand straight through into Cliffjumper's body. He did not tell Cliffjumper his ultimate plan, he did not set up an elaborate trap. He just stabbed him and moved on. means to an end.

    Megatron on the other hand had a weak Optimus Prime and a weak Ratchet who just fought off hordes of eraticons. Optimus climbed up a cliff with huffs and puffs, and at that point I was just waiting for Megatron to kick him down while Optimus was defenseless. But that is obviously not his style. No, it is not good enough to kill Optimus then and there. He wants to make sure Optimus SEES Megatron's brilliance as he brings back the dead of an entire planet. He wants Optimus to actually feel futile, weak, and helpless in the last moments of his life.

    And a more direct comparison is when the Autobots invade the base. Starscream suggests fighting them off then and there, where as Megatron tells Starscream that they need time to create a fitting welcome.

    Essentially my point is that the dramatic leadership of Megatron often has too many places of failure. Although Starscream also failed to get information out of Agent Fowler, he was close to success, and the plan was definitely simpler and easier to execute.

    Perhaps Starscream truly does deserve this command position, or do you see something in Megatron that the Decepticons need in a leader?
     
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    Starscream clearly isn't happy with Megatron's ways nor the way Megatron disrespects everything he has done in his 3 years of leadership.

    I can see this growing into a pretty solid reason for Starscream to fight Megatron, he won't just betray him for greed, he genuily believes that he's the superior choice for leadership now.
     
  3. Joalro

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    I can actually see it getting somewhat political. Megatron obviously has a decent following. If/when he returns, the decepticons may actually find themselves choosing between the two.
     
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    While the Decepticons are far from friendly, this implies destroying the planet or humanity wasn't one of their plans. Notice how they were hiding after Megatron disappeared and how they began hoarding a good amount of Energon for themselves. They didn't go after anyone until they found out the Autobots were there. Even then they only went after Fowler because they knew he knew where they were hiding.

    Megatron on the other hand was a didn't care. In fact, if it weren't for Starscream having a dead Cliffjumper lying around, he would have had his shit fucked sideways for the sake of his master's experiment. All he wanted to do was fuck shit up.

    If Megatron ever returned, EVERY SINGLE Decepticon, even Starscream, would kneel before him. And you know why? Because they are fucking terrified of Megatron. If Starscream ever tried to challenge his authority even with all the other cons backing him, Megatron could them on the spot.
     
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    I would like to see Starscream on the lead for a while.
     
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    Fair and clear termination policies can be the difference between a challenging work environment that fosters growth, and everything is the opposite. Nowhere is this clearer than in the professional relationship of the Deception leader, Megatron, and his subordinates, Starscream. Because the service is a manager in the grass and, above all, Megatron, we searched the entire catalogue can be found in Transformers Starscream five examples of behavior that can not be tolerated in any direction.
     
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    On cessation of clear policies and fair can mean the difference between a work environment that fosters growth, and whatever the opposite of what that is. Nowhere better than in the professional relationship between the head of Deception, Megatron, and his subordinates, Starscream. As a service to new leaders, and above all, Megatron, we combed through the entire catalogue transformers find five examples of behaviours that Starscream should not be tolerated by management.
     

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