Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by eagc7, Jan 12, 2016.
ah yes, midichlorians, the scientific term for what the uncouth layman calls "scrubbin' bubbles".
It reminds me of both mitochondria and chlorophyll (which I learned later is intentional).
Speaking of midichlorians, the folks who think they somehow change the nature or interpretation of The Force probably didn't catch something the Original Trilogy was doing. Everybody seems sort of aware that it was inspired by ideas like chakra energy, ki, or whatever else you want to call it. But force powers were also inspired by quantum entanglement and what Einstein called "spooky action at a distance." The whole point of calling it "The Force" in the first place was to take something mystical and make it sound more scientific. Same reason Obi-Wan describes the force using terms like "energy field" as if he were discussing electromagnetism (notice that the Force also has a polarity...). Just like Star Wars merges the genres of science fiction and fantasy, The Force merges spiritualism with science and natural law. Midichlorians are exactly in line with that.
Yes BUT then Lucas uses Gui-Gon, the best Jedi ever, to illuminate us on the “living force” which sounds super religious to me. Unless the midichlorians are actually telling you what to do? Is the Force a prime mover? Or is human emotion and behavior the future as Yoda suggests? Are things predetermined in SW? Does the Force have a will? I feel like Lucas is having his own science vs religion struggle in SW.
You’re actually not far off. Qui-Gon was considered a bit of a maverick when compared to other Jedi, and he didn’t always see eye to eye with the council. Ultimately, his views on the Living Force end up partially saving the Galaxy when he figured out how to communicate with the living after death and passing that teaching onto Yoda and Obi Wan to help Luke. It also adds a sense of dramatic irony since the immortality that Anakin was seeking through the dark side was achievable from the light side all along. Speaking of Anakin, you could argue that his whole character arc in the prequels is based on those struggles you mentioned. Anakin would see visions of the future, and as someone who had been declared the Chosen One for over half his life, it isn’t hard to imagine him believing he had some sort of agency in those visions and his fear of their inevitability is one of the major reasons he leaves the Jedi.
Yes. I agree. I believe Lucas is presenting Qui-Gon as the perfect Jedi. Qui-Gon reveals all the ways the Jedi have gone wrong. I think he is essentially a pre-Republic Jedi.
I think he's trying to express that these aren't either/or questions---that there's a give and take in ALL of those dualities and many more--and has been trying to do so from the beginning...
Luke Skywalker: You mean it controls your actions?
Kenobi: Partially, but it also obeys your commands.
I think midichlorians were just Lucas's elderly dementia showing.
Just like pretty much the entire Phantom Menace.
This feels relevant.
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