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Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by fortress, Jan 24, 2007.

  1. fortress

    fortress Member

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    Something's been bugging me for ages...

    Hmm.. which one is Jetfire?

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    Who copied who?? Anyone know why this happened?
     
  2. Omegatron

    Omegatron Mandatory Fun. Buy it now TFW2005 Supporter

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    Yes...many people know what happened. Hasbro took the toys they needed for the initial line of Transformers from a variety of Japanese toys, including Robotech's Macross series- which is where Jetfire came from.

    -Tony!
     
  3. fortress

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    ah ha.. cheers sir! i can sleep easy now :) 
     
  4. Sol Fury

    Sol Fury The British Butcher Administrator News Staff

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    Basically, a small company (Takatoku or something like that) produced the initial Macross Valkyrie in Japan, which Hasbro licensed for Jetfire, prior to Harmony Gold buying the rights to the animation for Robotech and prior to Bandai buying up the company and the rights to the mold.
    Because Harmony Gold owned the rights to the show in the US, Jetfire's look had to be changed and he was renamed Skyfire to distance him from the toy he was based on. Orders also came from Hasbro to Sunbow to limit Jetfire's use to the bare minimum because of this (on an interesting note, there is a (poor quality) advert for Jetfire floating about on Youtube that uses his Macross appearance).

    Anyways, because Hasbro owned the rights to the mold, Harmony Gold couldn't intially issue the transforming Jetfire in the US, so you got all the other molds instead. The rights have long since reverted to Bandai. Also, because of the rights being owned by Bandai the whole time in Japan, Takara never issued Jetfire over there. He's US exclusive!
     
  5. bigkid24

    bigkid24 Well-Known Member

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    Well to be nitpicky the toy is based on the Super Dimensional Fortress: Macross toys, not Robotech's Macross Saga. There are no full sized transforming toys in the old Matchbox line of Robotech toys....and of course they are strickly American not Japanese.
     
  6. ams

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    You know why I like this board? Because somebody new popped in with a question most of us have known the answer to for 20 years, and instead of saying "OMG YOR STUPIDZ!!!!", members provided detailed, thoughtful information and choose to share knowledge rather than be a jerk.

    TFW, I salute you.
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  7. gen1fan

    gen1fan G1 PRIME FROM VA TFW2005 Supporter

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    also there are some transformer jetfire that have the Robotech's Macross logo on the eing and they can bring some high dollars.
     
  8. flamepanther

    flamepanther Interested, but not really

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    No, they have Macross' Macross logo, thank you.
     
  9. Sy-Rein

    Sy-Rein Rogue Stunticon

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    Well I wasnt aware of all those details. I kind on knew the basics, so hey it's not just some of the newer people, some of us older members learn a few things too.

    And to add to ams' comments, yes it is nice to see helpful info instead "OMG, this is like the 1 billion-trillion-quigillionth time somebody has asked question X, go F' yourself NEWBIE!!"
     
  10. Voiceroy

    Voiceroy Trans-fo-mahs!

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    OMG YOR STUPIDZ!!!!








    Seriously though, I dig that skull and crossbones Jetfire/Macross figure. And it has a bigger... er, cone too.
     
  11. bigkid24

    bigkid24 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah! haha

    The Macross logo Jetfire are the Matsushiro Jetfires that you may have heard about. Even then there are two variants. One where the symbol is a sticker that goes over the red stripe on the wing and another where the symbol is painted on and there's a break in the stripe to accomodate it.

    I forget the timeline exactly but Matsushiro, I think was the interim company between Takatoku and Bandai that produced Jetfire.
     
  12. fschuler

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    Nice post, ams. Good thing he didn't start a thread like this in the movie forum :lol 
     
  13. pscoop

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    I used to watch Robotech when I was kid, I always wondered about that whole deal. I wasn't untill I got older that I learned about the whole deal with Hasbro and the Diaclones and w/e.
     
  14. Evan Goldsborough

    Evan Goldsborough Freelance Negotiator

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    Heh, I'm looking around for a Macross Veritech at the moment, and I'm seriously considering just getting a Classics Jetfire in it's place, just because of the lower price......
     
  15. flamepanther

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    Valkyrie. Macross has Valkyries. "Veritech" is a Robotech-only term.
     
  16. Evan Goldsborough

    Evan Goldsborough Freelance Negotiator

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    Fair enough. Eh heh heh, to tell the truth, my only real exposure to Macross has been the Robotech: Battlecry game, but I'm trying desperately to change that...
     
  17. flamepanther

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    The original series is classic. Macross Plus is hard to go wrong with... co-directed by the director of Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo. Not all of Macross is officially available outside of Japan, but if you're into fansubs, PM me.
     
  18. bigkid24

    bigkid24 Well-Known Member

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    Blasphemy! heh If you're looking for a Macross Valkyrie then you can look into getting Toynami's 1/100 scale Valkyrie or an old Yamato 1/60 scale VF-1S if you're looking to save some money.
     
  19. MattMoylan

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    Shameless plug ;) 

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  20. TrickyDisco

    TrickyDisco <b><font color=blue>Voted TFW2005's Sexiest Female

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    That's the first thing that sprung to mind when I saw this thread :lol 
     

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