SPOILER ALERT Question about Allspark Fragment

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  1. Sketch O'plex

    Sketch O'plex Member

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    Just a thought, in the first film Sam is holding the complete Allspark for a while and seem okay (apart from being chased by Captain Shitbrick.

    In the trailer for Revenge of the Fallen he picks up a small piece and he goes nuts and starts seeing lots of symbols.

    Why didn't this happen in the first? Did it download Megatrons memories? ahhh

    MEGATRON WANTS WHAT IN MY MIND!!!

    (Megan Fox wants what in my pants!!!)
     
  2. Bayless

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    thats a good ass question.

    im going to suggest two theories.

    1) because it is broken it attempted to download the information from who it made contact with
    2) its a plot device and thats how they wrote it in the script
     
  3. Shockscream

    Shockscream Chairman of Nerd Day

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    The Allspark was intact in the first film, which might have something to do with it. Alternatively, the shattering of the Allspark has come to the attention of The Fallen and he is accessing Sam's mind in order to find the shard -- which has the effect of making him a bit insane.
     
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    I totally agree with this theory/concept!
     
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    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOR.....

    Perhaps the Allspark is "telling" Sam the way to recharge the Allspark, and Megatron wants it so he can rebuild the allspark for the ultimate weapon (or become the ultimate weapon, seeing as how the Allspark probably left small fragments in his chest). Maybe it discovered the world's greatest chili recipe and wants Sam to spread the word!
     
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    PredaconX Decepticon Combiner

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    Im also wondering why it would of out of nowhere started downloading info to Sam. I mean he has had the fragment for some time now and nothing has happened. I dont know if something has triggered it to download or for some other reason. But im assuming something had to start the download and now Megatron wants the info to either recreate the allspark or maybe use the remaining piece for himself.
     
  7. cnic

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol 
     
  8. OmegaCarly

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    Well BB kinda sorta deactivated the all spark cube... to a smaller size before handing it to sam so that might be the reason the cube didn't have an effect on him.
     
  9. cnic

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    Maybe it was because he was concentrating on it in the new trailer?In the first movie he was so worried about hiding it/getting rid of it he didn't actually focus on it and it never activated the "download"?
     
  10. TUROK1134

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    I would say that the Allspark is just unstable in its shattered form. It is "raw power" after all.
     
  11. Optimus1986

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    Well, you have to remember that the same thing happened to Archibald when he activated Megatron's navigation system. Cybertronian technology has effects on humans. Like somebody said earlier, it's probably instructions Sam is seeing on how to reactivate the cube. Either that, or it's coordinates to the Fallen, and Megatron wants to awaken him.
     
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    This perhaps? It might be hard for the Allspark to screw with his head when he's busy running from the 30-50 foot fanatical robot while shit's being shot at him and his car/guardian just got his legs blown off and the fate of the human race hangs in the balance. Maybe once he's a bit...calmer, it's easier for any latent messages or information to filter into his brain and begin driving him insane.

    Or, as has been stated, Allspark pieces are more unstable than a whole cube.

    Or it's a plot device and this is one thing the writers will be critiqued for.

    Interesting question though. Hopefully the writers do address this though and not forget/ignore it.
     
  13. Gingerchris

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    Sam: "You mean you could've downloaded that into me all this time?"

    Allspark Shard: "No. Only when it's funny."
     
  14. buickanddeere

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    The AllSpark seems to "go off" when dropped or jolted. As in the birth of the DewBot etc when dropped on the sidewalk.
    Sam dropped an AllSpark shard on the dorm floor so it "went off" again.
    Given the size reduction of the AllSpark before being tossed in BB's backseat. The current shards held by Sam and Prime would be sizable if folded back out.
    Maybe the AllSpark can "re-grow" lost parts similar to a Starfish if given enough energy. All that's needed is what's under the Pyramid but that's a serious drawback for earth re-charging the AllSpark.
     
  15. Malikon

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    or maybe it's slowly poisoned him in the 2 years that've happened in between the first and second movies timelines. It's had a long time to work on him and build up in his system.
     
  16. jazz_00

    jazz_00 legen wait 4 it dary

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    just a thought but maybe the shard was dormant till megatron is revived. given that he is in possesion of most of it.. and with him being brought back sam's shard is sumhow activated with the peices lodged in good old shiny big foot.

    -jazz
     
  17. Ash from Carolina

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    Perhaps its some sort of repair function. If the cube is damaged then it will try to find something that can repair it.

    Maybe Sam didn't go crazy before because he was near Bumblebee and the cube was waiting for a chance to download with Bumblebee since he'd be the more advanced life form. But when Sam goes to college he doesn't have Bumblebee around so the cube has no choice except for Sam. Who's mind has trouble with all that info because let's face it Sam isn't exactly the world's smartest character.

    Or perhaps the fragment goes crazy once something happens with the fragments that were left in Megatron. Perhaps the cube is manipulating both Sam and Megatron so it can become a whole cube again.
     

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