"Sparkplug" Witwicky's name???

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  1. OP84

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    The Generation One comics from Marvel give him three first names, possibly intertwining with each other to make one big full name. Those names were Stanslias Pitor (First and/or Middle name), William, and Irving. It would probably add up to Stanslias Pitor William Irving Witwicky but in the first live-action movie, his first name is Ron and considering Sam/Spike's full name is Samuel James Witwicky, it's safe to say that Spark's first name is Ronald James Witwicky. Then again, in IDW's TF comics, it's Daniel Witwicky! Now, I'm personally not a fan of Daniel (Spike's son) so I'd rather have Spark's name as Ronald Daniel James Witwicky (since I don't think the three names from the Marvel Comics fit for some reason) and just get rid of the Daniel character altogether in any continuity featuring the G1 cast but what do you think? Which name do you prefer?
     
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    I never knew that Marvel's Sparkplug had three first names. *Comes to prove I need to start reading G1 Marvel comics*

    To be honest, I prefer the name Ron from the Movies.
     
  3. OP84

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    I don't mean just first name (don't worry, I think Ron's a better name too) but both first and middle names.
     
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    Meh, I guess I'm not embittered with enough fan hate --- IMO Sparkplug's real name being Daniel in IDW continuity is something I actually like, because the idea of a boy being named after his grandfather isn't all that uncommon (seriously, there's a couple instances of it in my own family).

    Ron's not too bad either, but Daniel to me I kinda like better, regardless of what the original G1 character of Daniel Witwicky was like.
     
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    But they never introduced Daniel (Spike's son) in the IDW continuity.
     
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    No, but the fact that there's a Sparkplug and his son Spike in IDW continuity seems to me at least to leave a fair implication on its own of what IDW Spike would likely name his son if he ever had one.
     
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    Stansilas Pitor? :lolol 
     
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    Stanislas Piotr, is that even a real name?
    *googles, finds most results mention "porn star"*

    :confused2 
     
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    William was the one the comic used first, so I go with that.
     
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    Ron is not Sparkplug, Sam is not Spike. IDW Spike and his father is different to the cartoon and comics Spike. They shouldn't be merged together.

    I never heard of "Stanslias Pitor" and don't know where you got that from. Sparkplug's real name could be William Irving or Irving William. Its common for some people to go by their middle name instead of their first name so perhaps thats what he did there.

    I like to think that Ron is the brother to Sparkplug. Its obviously not mentioned prior to 2007 since Ron was only invented as a character in 2007. I also like to think that there is a Daniel Witwicky in the Witwicky family and Spike (not IDW Spike) named his son after him.

    As far as IDW Spike (son of Daniel Witwicky) goes and his relation to the other Spike Witwicky (son of Sparkplug), IDW Spike still exists and its one of those families where one kid has the same name as his cousin.
     
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    Im guessing for cartoon it makes sense its irving. I mean, if i was an irving id adopt a nickname too, as dumb as sparkplug as a name was. Hi sense of poor name selection is evident in naming his kid spike too, so its consistent characterization.
     
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    You also have to wonder if Buster Witwicky exists in the cartoon continuity despite not being mentioned. He probably lives with his mother wherever she is.
     
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    Yeah, as far as I'm concerend, Ron and Sam were their names, Spike and Sparkplug were nicknames. Don't start explaining whiy I'm wrong, please, that was the only way I could rationalize those names
     
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    "Stanislas Piotr", for those wondering, was never actually used in-fiction, and was an early idea for his real name (Santislas Piotr = S.P. = SparkPlug), which would seem to have been intended to paint him as a Slavic immigrant. It did seem to influence the very first issue or two of the comic, since Sparkplug's garage sign reads "S. Witwicky", and it would make no sense to initialize a nickname, but he was "William" by the third issue, and clearly presented as an American soldier who had fought in Korea.
     
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    ^ Ahh, thanks for that elucidation, there. I knew about William and Irving, but I'd never heard about Stanislas Piotr before. That might have made for an interesting backstory if they'd stuck with it. Witwicky is a pretty unusual name, too.

    William comes from Marvel #3, as I recall. Is it possible Budiansky forgot he'd given Sparkplug a first name by the time he wrote #31, where Irving comes from? In my own canon, I just make Irving his middle name. "William Irving" seems to roll off the tongue better than "Irving William." Plus, it makes his initials W.I.W.

    'Course, if it was "Irving William," his initials would be I.W.W... Which is W.W.I. spelled backwards... which is the abbreviation for World War One... which is not the war Sparkplug fought in... Hurm...

    Yeah, I'll stop rambling now. *sleepy*

    EDIT: Just remembered: Budiansky didn't write #3, Jim Salicrup did. So what we have here is a good old-fashioned continuity error. And since Budiansky>Salicrup, I'd give Irving a definite edge over William.
     

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