Spark Resurection

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  1. AutobotJazz1

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    I've always wondered, why can Decepticons come back to life. If the Matrix of Leadership can bring back the Spark of any Transformer why not revival some fallen Autobots like Jazz or Elita-1?
     
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    Its called RESTING in peace.
     
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    I guess it's out of respect. Sentinel Prime was only in stasis. But, Optimus was brought back to life...so who knows. I guess it just really depends on who they really need for the script lol.
     
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    Maybe if the original 7 throw themselves behind it, but otherwise I think it's only good for robocomas and the like.
     
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    I assumed that the Matrix could only revive one worth, a Prime.
     
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    I hate the idea of the Matrix bringing back any Transformer. Primes, and Primes only? Sure.
     
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    Jazz was thrown into the ocean along optimus first trailer

    ELita-1 was CRUSHED to pieces by Shockwave (meaning everything including her spark was destroyed)

    also its likely the matrix can only revive primes since it was only used on Optimus Prime and Sentinel Prime

    Also Bay said that anybody that died in the past movies will stay dead in DOTM
     
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    It can, the fact that it hasn't has to do with something that Michael Bay has previously stated. He made the comment prior to ROTF being released that when he kills off a bot, they stay dead. This, we know is untrue becuase both Megatron, Blackout, and Optimus have been resurrected.

    So, technically, Jazz, Ironhide, and Wheeljack could and should be resurrected, but we all know that wont happen with Bay in control.
     
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    Bay said there would be no ressurections on Dead bots PRIOR DOTM not ROTF

    Blackotu wasnt ressurected. (Grindor is a seperate guy)

    theres nothing left of Ironhide so he cant be ressurected
     
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    NEST SOLDIER IRONHIDE'S DRIVER

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    Blackout was resurrected. Thats him in ROTF. The name Grindor was something that Hasbro jumped on as Blackout being revived was going to be a surprise. (there's another thread on here that details this).

    Second, Bay did say in an interview on youtube in 2008 that dead bots would stay dead.
     
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    If the character was Blackout then 1. Why the Games refer him as a Grindor. 2. When Hasbro was asked if the bot was Blackout or Grindor back in 2009 or 2010, they said that Blackout was not in ROTF and the Character was Grindor

    Bob Orci have no clue if that was meant to be blackout or Seperate Character, also The TFwiki that that guy was talknig about IS NOT RIEABLE, the tfwiki.net is rebiable on those kind of stuff if Grindor was blackout the tfwiki.Net would had merged the 2 pages together, Teletrann I: the Transformers WIki site IS NOT REIABLE! ppl sometimes psot fake info on that wiki

    not to forget EVEN THE COMIC BOOKS (the UK ones) refer the character as Grindor and Not blackout and he was Alive BEFORE ROTF even happened on those comics

    so its grindor and NOT blackout

    I dont remember, but one thing is that in 2007-2008 Bay said he would Post FAKE info for ROTF, so he was probably lying
     
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    NEST SOLDIER IRONHIDE'S DRIVER

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    As my answers seem to be unsatisfactory, then perhaps you should direct your inquirys to a moderator such as MIBNRatchet or an expert like Shadow 2879 would could further clairfy this for you.

    I simply answered the question posed on the forum becuase I have the answer to the person's question.

    By the way, you should check you grammar before posting.:crazy: 
     
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    Because the Spark is not like in other continuities. It is merely the heart, not the brain or soul. Optimus was able to be revived because he hadn't been dead long enough for any permanent brain damage. Also his damage while severe, was fixable. Sentinel was simply depowered, like a coma. Jazz, Arcee, Q, etc are all destroyed, blown or ripped to pieces and dead for good. There's nothing to revive. Ditto almost all Decepticons.

    However the idea that the matrix can only revive Primes is interesting.
     
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    What?

    Btw i edited my Last comment with mroe info

    more thing i would like to poitn out is that After the Shard is used for ressurect a dead bot/someone on stasis is dissapiars cause the Shard Dissapaired when Jetfire was reactivated so once its used on a dead/stasis lock bot is dissapairs

    and sorry for my typos BUT I TYPE SO FAST THAT i got used to it
     
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    Sorry to butt in, but wasn't this thread about the revival of characters? What's with the talk on Blackout/Grindor? Beleive whatever you want to beleive.

    Other characters don't get revived because there is no purpose for them to fill in the films.
     
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    he said Blackout was ressurected in ROTF, but i am telling him that Blackout was not revived and the character was grindor
     
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    I know, but what is the relivence to this thread?
     
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    ehem... Ressurection
     
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    It would be pretty cool if ironhide was resurrected, but then again he turned in to a big pile of rust so he obviously can't. I really wished jazz didn't die though. I would have liked to what he would do in future movies, but sadly they have to kill of some of the good guys, to.
     
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