Something that bugs me wih old comics

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  1. MushroomPrime

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    Why is there so much exposition?

    "Oh no my web shooters failed and now I'm falling to the ground with no way to save myself!"

    Dammit that pisses me off
     
  2. smkspy

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    They're written primarily for kids?
     
  3. megatronkicksas

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    The only thing that really bugs me about old comics is the art
     
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    I like most old art, its the coloring that gets me, now everything is computer colored and looks much better.

    I would like for them to go back and re-color some old books.

    Gene Colan's stuff is down right beautiful.
     
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    They are going back and recoloring old books in trades and hard covers. I recently picked up a recolored version of some of George Perez's old works.
     
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    Sacrilege!

    :p 
     
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    Goddamn kids :mad 
     
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    I noticed this too in comics! And they always repeat the same things over and over
     
  9. libeskind

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    Next thing you know these wipper snappers will be complaining about roll calls. How are suppose to remember all these names?!!
     
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    It's like complaining that Robert Johnson doesn't know shit about the blues.

    "How can you listen to this tripe?"

    Ugh, it's maddening.
     
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    Modern recolouring of older material is abominable, especially when its done to stuff that had good inking and colouring in the first place.

    The real problem that they need to fix is that they keep reprinting stuff made for newsprint on bright gloss paper that blows out the contrast instead of using decent matte stock.
     
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    Jeez, Stan Lee's old stuff from the 60's is GOLD. Exposition and all. Its just the way they were crafted back then.

    I can read the light hearted self contained (for the most part) stories, and not have to worry about darker 'edgy' themes, continuity, crossovers, and basically all the things that are slowly turning me off Marvel and DC.

    Right now, the ony comic book I actually look forward to reading is Conan the Cimmerian.
     
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    Think of it this way,,,

    in "the old days" most writers were classicly trained. In that most English writing courses taught a writer to "paint a picture with words." Since comics were such a new medium back then, often times writers and artists (often not the same person, which is another modern change) might have slight variations on a situation.

    A writer may call for "Spiderman looks pensive"

    To which the artist responds, "I've got this really cool Chrysler building reference photo, I'm just gonna stick Spidey under a gargoyle"

    Hmmm, how does this communicate Peter's inner turmoil to the reader?

    Hence the sometimes laborious exposition text.

    (BTW I wouldn't mind dabbling in a few pieces of vintage comic updated with modern color. But seeing as some of it was the psychodelic 60's,,,,:drunk )
     
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    Damn straight. I admired the old black and white UK Marvel TF stuff so much that's my inking style now. Seeing those old stories coloured when they were originally drawn to be black and white just looks 'off'. And modern colouring or recolouring loses so much of that hard work put into the detail and the inking by adding murky shadowing over something already nicely shadowed.
     
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    I...you...what?

    This cannot be stressed enough. The format of a comic book/strip was, amazingly, innovative. Printing techniques that allowed accurate, mass reproduction of art, in colour, on a large scale made such things possible. Writers were still feeling out the "appropriate" amount of dialogue to craft a good story and how much should or could be told through the images alone.

    - Coeloptera
     
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    Now that's my kind of thing. Great inking and even a nice simple colour job that lets the ink job shine through and doesn't murk everything up.
    Pity so many comics have to drag their artwork through a computer these days.
     
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    I fully stand behind computer coloring. I think that some of the colorists have great skill in bringing the artwork to life. It also allows artist to work more efficiently without having to worry as much about word balloons or sound effects.
     
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    You mean they weren't coloring books?:jawdropper: 

    I have said too much,,, :confused2 
     
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    I'm just going to be devil's advocate here for a bit and say that some of the recent comics are trying to be too much like movies. I'll be silent (for now) regarding the original inquiry because of my stance in this post.

    Comic books can be an amazing reading tool and can teach readers new words, concepts, etc. Pictures can do this as well, but in different ways. Comic books should really do themselves a favor and try to do the things that are indicative to its medium. Scott McCloud has expounded MUCH on these things (and more) in his work. :) 
     
  20. McBradders

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    That's the entire art of drawing an effing comic... ugh.
     

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