Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by chazparks, Sep 1, 2008.
Hot Rod being called Rodimus doesn't seem as bad in comparison.
I am not sure what you are quite wanting to know - Hot Rod became rodimus prime in the cartoon/comic - So, I dont see how you are comparing the two - And unless I am forgetting what I read I believe due to legal issues they could no longer use the name octane which is why they switched it to tankor....
Hasbro can never keep a trademark.
yeah, trademark issues...samething with quite a few characters..some had the issue solved by just adding the word "autobot" in front, like movie jazz and ratchet, for example...
samething with bluestreak...didnt u wonder how he became silverstreak?
EDIT: and yeah, its nothing like hot rod and rodimus...hot rod became rodimus prime in the original movie after 'gaining' the matrix of leadership (something like that)..and basically, if ur looking at the toys, hot rod is the basic car, and rodimus prime is the heavily modded one..although classics/henkei hot rod is often called rodimus
well, do you expect them to renew every tf's trademark, from g1? lol even if they are not expecting to ever use it one day? i mean that was 25 years ago almost! they can't just trademark everything lol!
They should, they're a billion dollar company.
Or ta least keep the name for Jazz, lol
I've wondered the samething when I bought Tankor. I was asking myself was he known as Octane back in the 80's.
Actually, its not that Hasbro didn't file for or get the appropriate name for Jazz, its just that the word "Jazz" is considered to be too broad of a term for any company to actually own. It has to be more "original," which is why "Autobot Jazz" works.
He's comparing the two due to the fact that the Classic's "HOT ROD" figure was named Rodimus instead of Hot Rod.
Doesn't matter what names Hasbro give em, I'm still calling him Octane. Just seems right.
Exactly. HASBRO HAS NOT "LOST" THE NAME JAZZ, for the umphtiest time. If they couldn't use Jazz, "Autobot Jazz" wouldn't work either. Same reason Bandai can't simply release "Megazord Megatron".
I haven't been able to find out why exactly Hasbro can't use Octane yet, though.
So it seems that Octane Gain from Mattel's toyline for the Disney/Pixar movie "Cars" might be the culprit.
He didn't say anything about losing it, just that they've added Autobot to the front of it because Jazz is too broad of a term to use on it's own. As for Octane, they couldn't use it for some reason, not exactly sure. Even they sounded a bit down about it when the put the first pictures of the prototypes up on the site. While they are a huge company, there is no way they'd be able to renew every single trademark every time they would need to to keep all of them, as Transformers isn't the only thing they do. There are some trademarks that they make sure they keep over the years.
He didn't. The guy he was responding to did.
By quoting repair_bay in your post, it looked like you were trying to correct him. Would have made a bit more sense, imo, to quote MushroomPrime. That way people don't need to go back to repair_bay's post to see that you're adding on to what he was saying.
Ok, are one of you guys also known as Cyberjet #7 on seibertron if not did you read his post before posting the same thing on here...??
I think it falls under the category of "names you cannot trademark because they are too broad".
For example, with modern trademark and copyright laws, I'm pretty that is the strongest reason as to why Jazz (technically a style of music) and Ratchet (a mechanics tool) cannot be claimed by one specific company. Whereas Megatron, is a creative name that doesn't apply to anything other than the Decepticon Leader.
It's been common knowledge to me for over a year now. Can't remember who first explained it to me, but it was someone on here.
I started my reply with the word "exactly"... Words mean things!
Separate names with a comma.