Smaller - Hollow - More Expensive

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by neospark1, Jun 15, 2012.

  1. neospark1

    neospark1 Well-Known Member

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    So 3 trends (actually 4) have developed over the past 12-18 months.

    1. Hollowed out joints. I know it is being done to save plastic hence also money ... but
    2. Smaller figures in ever class size.
    3 Higher prices for deluxes.
    4. Ratcheting joints "its a lost art."

    I am ok with smaller figures and higher prices ... but the hollowed out joints and lack of articulation really bother me. Again higher price points I understand but I want Hasbro to get back to more sturdy figures and ratcheting joints for Voyager and up class size.

    Seeing so many holes and gaps in my TF figures really detraught from the overall sturdiness and look of the figures. And not having ratcheting joints on the Voyager class figures lead to loose legs and other parts.

    If anyone at Hasbro is reading this .... a 25 year fan would like to see some less hollowed out figures and ratcheting joints for Voyager class figures. Another dollar of two per figures is just fine for me.

    Thoughts fellow Trans fans?
     
  2. Squall42080

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    Yeah. I understand why they are doing this...especially with the rising price of the barrel...which affects plastic production. It just comes down to saving money somewhere.

    I absolutely hate the reduction in size classes...and the loss of certain joints. It seems like Generations and Reveal the Shield were the last big "hurrah" for Hasbro before they had to cave to the expenditure.

    I was just looking at RID Vehicon, and although it's a nice figure, and everyone wants one...it's really not as impressive as one would assume going ito the hunt. It's small, there is no waist, and the arms are basically the door panel. Don't get me wrong, it's the shining point of the line...but also a sad reminder of where the future of Transformers is heading.
     
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    The horse you're beating is hollow, too.
     
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    This is one reason why I'm focusing my collecting on previous lines. Although I like the Generations line, I'm not gonna buy junk, and that's what Hasbro is offering now. I also agree that the ratcheting joints should be brought back.
     
  5. Soundblaster1

    Soundblaster1 The Heisenberg of Toys

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    Yeah, if Vehicon is the best of PRID, I'm going to have to call myself done with mainline stuff.

    Anything that isn't fragile is too simple to be cool
    Anything that isn't too simple to be cool is too fragile to function

    Combined with the ever-intrusive gimmicks...
     
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    Dont' know why, but I laughed... hard.
     
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    This is why I collect Cyberverse now.
     
  8. Spawn77

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    I think it's getting blown out of proportion just a bit.
     
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    Hollow is the one that bothers me most, too. I don't like it when the figure looks bad from too many angles.
     
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    At first I would agree, but then I look at toys like PRID Vehicon and Wheeljack (even Bumblebee to a degree) that have really clever and awesome engineering, and then I remember why I buy Transformers in the first place.

    Ratcheting joints are often bothersome. They can be too loud (louder ones strike a certain chord that gives me a headache, but that's just me), and sometimes become limiting to articulation. And it's not like they've been phased out quite yet; plenty of larger toys still use them.

    And it's not like we don't get this same thread once a week...
     
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    Which has almost always been the case anyway, so no big change there.
     
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    I really can't understand the rage over the hollow parts. Even prior the pieces were hollow, they were just two prices connected together. Now they're a single piece. And they are put on the inside or the back of the figure. I never even see them in my display...

    But people will have their opinions...
     
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    What are these hollow parts everyone keeps talking about?
     
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    The only thing that really bothers me is the potential new Generations line toys being smaller. I don't want them to look out of place with my current Classics stuff. Hollow parts, I've learned to ignore, and small toys don't matter much to me as long as the size is kept in its own line. Ratchet joints? Don't really care as long as the joints are solid. Sometimes ratchets are bad anyway cause they're limited to clicks.

    Look at the sides of the legs.

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    This. Unless it's something super awesome like Vehicon.....I might buy Dead End though.:) 
     
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    The hollow spaces are in the back of G1 Jazz's legs, and G1 Wheeljack's legs, and hey, Grimlock didn't have any ratcheting joints either.
     
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    are ratchet joints those loud joints like on A/E/C toys? the ones that make annoying noise?
     
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    Yup
     
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    why would anyone want those back?
     

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