should Dark Of The Moon Wheeljack be a warrior not a coward

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by cliffjumperjump, Jul 16, 2012.

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does anyone think dotm wheeljack should have been a fighter/warrior not a coward

Poll closed Aug 15, 2012.
  1. dotm wheeljack warrior

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  2. dotm wheeljack a fighter

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    57.1%
  1. cliffjumperjump

    cliffjumperjump Member

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    I Really think that micheal bay made dotm wheeljack a coward not a fighter. I wanted to see Wheeljack fight some decpticons, but micheal bay made him the oppoisite of what the fans wanted. These pictures of my dotm deluxe wheeljack show how the dark of the moon wheeljack should have been protrayed as a fighter not a coward.
     

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  2. seekerblackout

    seekerblackout Banned

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    He wasn't a coward. And no, he shouldn't be a boring warrior bot.

    Jesus H. Christ, WHAT is so fucking wrong about being afraid to die?!
     
  3. Sideways77

    Sideways77 oh shoogah

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    Yeah, we totally need another boring badass. We don't need variation at all.
     
  4. Autobot Burnout

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    The underlined could be described as EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER IN THE MOVIE, depending on who you ask.

    That, and really until Prime Wheeljack came out, the only real role that an Autobot Wheeljack ever was put in was the job of "crazy mad scientist inventor" (excluding Armada Wheeljack, as he was a Decepticon for most of the series and is clearly based on G1 Sideswipe). DOTM Wheeljack's head being clearly inspired by Einstien's visage also serves as a big clue that he's an inventor, not a fighter.
     
  5. seekerblackout

    seekerblackout Banned

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    Oh, and that poll makes no sense.
     
  6. Sideways77

    Sideways77 oh shoogah

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    Yeah. Warrior and fighter are the same thing.
     
  7. Arbitron

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    This, a thousand times this.
     
  8. kaiserlisk

    kaiserlisk THIS PLEASES GAGA

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    So if you are afraid of dying a horrible death, you obviously must be a coward.
     
  9. Barricade24

    Barricade24 The Decepticop

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    I disagree. If that had happend, Barricade wouldn't have gotten a kill.

    Back on topic here, another fighter would just get boring after all. The Autobots need a nice arange of characters. Wheeljack was an inventor not a warrior. I prefer it that way. At least in the movis.
     
  10. PrimesRule

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    The only true answer right here.
     
  11. Aernaroth

    Aernaroth <b><font color=blue>I voted for Super_Megatron and Veteran

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    Not every member of a race of builders, artists, and civil servants needs to be a kill-hungry smug badass. The tragedy in Wheeljack/Que's character is not how he died or that he died, but that we never got to know him beforehand.
     
  12. zark225

    zark225 The Day Fukr

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    What is so wrong with him being a scientist/inventor? Not every Autobot needs to be this bad-ass gun toting sword slashing character! Wheeljack was fine the way he was, he just needed more screen time and development.

    What I don't get is that people call him a coward. He didn't get frightened when the Autobots hid from Shockwave and developed a battle plan, he was helping out Epps and Sam by giving them weapons, and obviously was with the other fighters, like Sideswipe, since he was captured with them. Besides when he was "begging" for his life, he was pointing how wrong the Decepticons were. They had them captured and the Autobots probably wouldn't have fought back.
     
  13. Jazz342

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    Hmmmm mirage should have been blue, sideswipe and ironhide should have been red, megatron should have been a handgun ...before tfp wheeljack had never been a fighter. Bay actually git him right, although the design of his face is quite off-putting.
     
  14. MPrime10

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    I voted fighter.

    If I had to pick, fighter definitely.

    The following is based on my perspective.

    Fighters are bots like Bumblebee, with his boxing fighting style. More hand to hand.

    A warrior, IMO, would be a bot like Brawl. A bot with lots of weaponry and strength.

    I would prefer he be neither, but if I had to pick, definitely fighter.
     
  15. TylerMirage

    TylerMirage I vawnt my berdt.

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    It's posts like these that give me aneurysms.

    1.) Already a thread on a similar topic. :)  (http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/trans...eeljack-needs-more-respect-3.html#post7883684)
    2.) You are free to think that Bay made him a coward and not a fighter. In some ways you are correct. He wasn't really a fighter. But he wasn't a coward either (see seekerblackout, Aernaroth, zark, kaiserlisk's responses).
    3.) A lot of people wanted him to have a cool fight scene. But he didn't. It's time to move on.
    4.) And if there's one thing that irks me more than the "true fan"-argument, it's this:

    I'll let you in on a little secret here, cliffjumperjump.

    Now riddle me this, which group of the above-mentioned people is "right"? What makes one group wanting one thing any more or less important than another group wanting a completely different thing? What makes what YOUR Wheeljack wants any more valid than MY Wheeljack wants? I'll tell you. NOTHING. Your wants are not more or less valued than my wants. They don't mean squat in the end. The filmmakers made decisions and they went with them. Some people liked them, some people didn't. But that's life.
     
  16. RisingPhoenix86

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    Neither I prefer scientist. He was fine in the movie. And he was NOT a coward.
     
  17. Meta777

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    This. This right here.

    Wheeljack was a scientist, an inventor. He wasn't the hardened warrior the others were. There is nothing wrong with fearing death, espeically when at that point, his friends and the whole planet may well have followed him soon after.

    He didn't just plead for his own life; he pleaded for the lives of his friends and the innocent race the Decepticons sought to enslave.
     
  18. Karhukjnsi

    Karhukjnsi Universal Wrestler

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    Why does every Autobot need to be able to kill everything in every way possible? That sounds more like a Decepticon's requirements.

    Autobots should also include individuals who don't like/know how to fight, and can be helpful in the background (see: Que).
     
  19. eagc7

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    Wheeljack is not a coward.

    even if he was a warrior, you have to know that there are likely soldiers who are afraid to die.
     
  20. Maximo Prime

    Maximo Prime Bassist of Ill Repute

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    OP, who are you to say what all the fans wanted. You don't speak for me.
     

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