Customs: Shapeways BHDA (Black Hi Def Acrylate) material being discontinued :(

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  1. allew

    allew Well-Known Member

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    My favorite material to order in shapeways, BHDA (Black Hi Def Acrylate) is being discontinued, anyone here try the recommended alternate material, Black HP Nylon plastic? Man I will miss BHDA, it was expensive but a strong and smooth finish that worked so well for TF heads and weapons.


    The email I got from shapeways.com with this horrible news

    Hi there,

    Shapeways strives to provide our creator community with the right materials to fit their goals. As part of upcoming changes to our materials portfolio, Shapeways will be shifting our offering. We owe you the courtesy of knowing that we will no longer be carrying some of the materials that you have recently purchased or sold in your shop. To help, we are suggesting alternative materials we offer below.

    You have until May 14, 2018 to order:

    High Definition Acrylate (instead try our Black HP Nylon plastic or Frosted Ultra Detail Plastic)
    Acrylic Plastic (instead try our Frosted Ultra Detail plastic)
    PLA (instead try our Strong & Flexible plastic)
    Metallic Plastic (instead try our Gray HP Nylon plastic)
    Elasto Plastic (instead try our Strong & Flexible plastic)
    Castable Wax
    Matte Gold Steel (instead try our Polished Gold Steel)
    Matte Bronze Steel (instead try our Polished Bronze Steel)
    We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience, and we hope that we can continue to support your needs with our new portfolio. As always, we will continue to research and develop new innovative material solutions for your amazing products.

    Thank you again for being a part of our community. We will have more updates to share soon. If you have any concerns, reach out to our customer service team for more information.

    Thanks,

    The Shapeways Team
     
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  2. AutobotBee

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    I just saw this email and was gonna post this too. What a freakin' massive suck this is. It was by far the cleanest and most durable hi-def material they had. Great for head casts and smaller items. Too bad. :( 
     
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  3. Yaujta

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    I guess it would have been decent for static pieces, but I had some hands made in it and they were absolutely terrible. Pushing the pieces together pretty much stripped the joint nubs. Total garbage, considering the price they were asking for this stuff.
     
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    Oh I agree Yaujta. For faces/heads, solid items it was great, if exorbitant in cost. Not as durable as the nylon for moveable pieces/joints for sure.

    I am guessing that cost is why they are no longer carrying the materials.
     
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    Frosted Ultra Detail. I had some pieces done in that a couple years ago- total blech! Paint didn’t want to adhere to it all that well.
     
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    Within the past months I had some BHDA print issues, so they had to reprint my items several times.
    Also, don't forget the postprocess for this material is labour intensive, having to cure it and manually cuting away all the support struts.

    With that said., the disconinuation is a shame though. Eventually stuff like my not-Sky Fire BHDA feet are really nice and sturdy; Heavy/Scratch: - Alternate Feet Set for Sky Guardian
     
  7. Yaujta

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    It takes dye like a champ, but yeah, no thanks.
    I bought some hands in FUD as well and apparently one had a fissure in the material and snapped. Bought a cannon set as well, and one of the corners on one gun snapped off for no reason. I had cleaned it nicely and then sprayed it with primer, and it never fully dried.
    Garbage, and $50 I'll never get back.
    I've ordered a few things in recent months, and very little of it was worth keeping or trying to work with. Considering the only good looking material is the FUD, and with it being so expensive and potentially brittle and practically unpaintable, I can find little to no value in trying Shapeways again.
    The BEST 3D printed stuff I ever used was from a private printer, and with those becoming so much more prevalent, I don't see Shapeways as even a viable resource.
     
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    These are just some of the items I've gotten printed out on Shapeways from BHDA material, with a new head, weapons and a little paint i've been able to expand my classics collection

    Micromaste Roadhandler head for POTP Legends Windcharger
    Micromaster Tote head for CW Ironhide
    G1 Toy Windcharger head for POTP Legends Windcharger
    G1 Toy Brawn head for TR Legends Brawn
    Hubcap head for TR Legends Bumblebee
    Cliffjumper head for TR Legends Roadburn
    Reflector arms for Botcon Legends Reflector
    Actionmaster Skyfall face for TR Deluxe Highbrow
    Actionmaster Mainframe face for TR Deluxe Perceptor
    Horrorcon Snapdragon face for a spare TR Titanmaster
    G1 Toy Brawn face for TR Titan Master Brawn
    Outback head and cannon for Botcon Fallback (though that figure will be replaced by POTP Outback)
    Exhaust (Diaclone Wheeljack) head for Generations and CW Wheeljack
    Jallguar head for CW Hound
    G1 gun for CW Chopshop
     
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    How is the detail on the HP’s nylon plastic "Professional Plastic"?

    Would a headsculpt look decent printed in it?

    HDA was good if the piece wasn't going to put under a lot of force.
     
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    Good to see that I'm not the only one that preferred the high-def black acrylate.

    This does stink, and it puts a lot of my planned purchases on hold, as well. I'm in the "wait and see" mode for which material is truly comparable.

    Anyone that does try the "professional plastic," feel free to review it for us!
     
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    It's formerly known as HP black nylon when it was still in the beta program at a much cheaper price.
    Back then, I used it to print my TR PMOP rifle set. Item and pics here: TR PMOP Rifle Set A by knoted on Shapeways

    It's basically what would have been Black Strong Flexible Polished, albeit supposedly with a bit of extra tensile strength and it being watertight/waterproof.
    Other than that, the surface quality is pretty much the same as any of the Strong Flexible Polished materials, now known as Processed Versatile Plastic.
     
  13. Yaujta

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    Why are they changing the names of the materials used?
     
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    New CEO.

    He acquired a lot of new investment funds this year, but it seems the overall company focus will shift a bit.
    Streamlining/renaming and cutting off labor intensive materials such as BHDA are probably part of this new direction.

    Several shop owners have been invited to an online questionnaire with the CEO - I happen to be one of them, so I'll ask him my questions upcoming wednesday.
     

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