Sentinel's betrayal

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Grey Line, Jul 24, 2011.

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Sentinel's betrayal forfeited his right to be called an Autobot & above all a Prime?

Poll closed Jul 31, 2011.
  1. Yes

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    61.7%
  2. No

    15 vote(s)
    18.5%
  3. Unsure

    21 vote(s)
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  1. Grey Line

    Grey Line Autobot Signal Intel

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    What do you all think?
     
  2. The F.N.G.

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    Shooting Ironhide in the back, executing Skids and Mudflap (in the adaptations), intended to make humanity slaves, and engaged fellow Autobots in combat with intent to kill. At the same time, Sentinel was doing this for the good of Cybertron. He felt that Optimus was jeopardizing the survival of their race.

    Should he forfeit his title of Prime? Yes, as he turned his back on what it meant to be a Prime. As Optimus even stated in the comic adaptation, Sentinel taught him that freedom was everyones right.

    Should he forfeit his title of Autobot? I don't think so. Despite everything he did, Sentinel was doing it from the good of Cybertron. While not exactly the best course of action, he had the right intent.
     
  3. Dinodigger97

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    Him being a Prime: Yes
    Him NOT being called a Autobot:No

    I don't want to explain way...
     
  4. bellpeppers

    bellpeppers A Meat Popsicle

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    Sentinel's betrayal forfeited his right to be called alive!
     
  5. Grey Line

    Grey Line Autobot Signal Intel

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    yup! :thumbs2: 
     
  6. Dinodigger97

    Dinodigger97 germinates within you.

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    :lol  and that two....
     
  7. SPLIT LIP

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    Wow, I fucked up a simple poll.

    I say yes, but somehow voted no.
     
  8. Starscreamer69

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    It's a no brainer really.
     
  9. Regressor

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    He betrayed himself. Fuck him!
     
  10. Grey Line

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    LOL!! Good point with no further need of a blunt explanation. :thumbs2: 
     
  11. Amaya

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    I vote yes.

    The "I'm only trying to save my species" shtick would have been feasible if he didn't go all A God Am I in between while trying to kill Optimus.
     
  12. Lock Cade

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    Yes, he betrayed everything that a Prime AND an Autobot stood for.
     
  13. jazzer90

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    I still respect Sentinel Prime. He betrayed Autobots because he wants to rebuild Cybertron, he loves his home too much.
     
  14. krade

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    i think he think the way our leader does.it's like al-quaida thinks they are doing the right thing and america doing the right thing in irak,no one is wrong or good,it's just a different point of view of each part.

    for american,sentinel is doing the wrong thing and for al-qaida is doing the best thing

    all of this is only the way you look a situation .
     
  15. Regressor

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    Look you can't compare it with real life conflict. Those run waay more deep and complicated you can't just over them like that.

    What we are discussing is a clear-cut si-fi movie convention logic. And if someone's plan includes destroying a whole another civilization (especially if it's our own) then they are simply on the wrong side.
     
  16. KnightHawkke

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    Yeah, that pretty well covers it. It's the old ends justify the means argument.
    There was another much easier way though that no one seemed to have thought about.
     
  17. baggzey23

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    in a cybertronians eye optimus is the traitor (why defend another planet for the sake of your own)
     
  18. Ratchets Hatch

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    Sentinel never explicitly said he had changed sides - only that he had made a deal with Megatron. Therefore, he's still an Autobot in my book. If you're British and you sell out your comrades to the Germans, you're still British.

    The Prime question is more debatable. The Fallen lost his status as a Prime, but he retained all of his abilities, probably because the abilities of a Prime are tied to one's ancestry. So, one can have the inherent strength and power of a Prime but not be considered a Prime.

    When Optimus finds Sentinel in the Ark, he specifically refers to him as "Sentinel Prime". After his Betrayal, he only refers to him as "Sentinel" implying that Optimus at least no longer considers him a Prime, but it hardly matters now that Sentinel is dead.
     

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