and i don't mean "good" like non-evil but he was a good character all together. I love dotm because he was thrown into the mix. He had character, he had faults, and he wasn't just a normal character who was there just to shoot things. Just cause he killed ironhide doesn't mean hes "the stupidest character in the franchise". He just wanted his planet to survive and he thought joining with megatron was the only way. I'm glad Michael Bay put him in the movie. anyone else with me on this?