I totally agree; talk is cheap.

 

This arguments is getting old. How can someone not identify or recognize thethe characters? Do people suffer from vision issues?

 

I also find amusing the whole "name slapping" comments. Don you honestly Hasbro cares since the G1 days? Especially since the main guys of the G1 line are name slaps on Diaclone toys.

Hasbro name slaps from day 1. Don´t act all pissy because the movies keep that tradition alive.

 

The quote in my sig sums it up.

 

You misunderstand. I look at "Sideswipe" and don't see the Sideswipe we all know. I see some generic silver car-bot with the ugliest face I've ever seen. Ratchet and Ironhide share no resemblence to their G1 selves beyond somewhat-fitting alt modes. Bumblebee has no resemblence beyond deco and his almost-horns.

Since Hasbro got control of most Transformers media back, there have been little-to-no nameslaps outside Bayformers beyond lesser-known nobody-names. Why is that? It's because Hasbro knows a lot of fans care for the character a name represents. Just because you have no attachment to these characters, doesn't mean we shouldn't.

And Diaclone was a line of nobodies. G1 has a full mythos across different mediums. There is no comparison.

It does. It really does. Bay replaced those robots with hideous shreddy monsters, and that's something I can't approve of no matter how much money went into Hasbro's CEO's pockets.

 

Excuse my language but FUCK ME I really don't want another movie. Well let me refraise that I'm OK with another movie I am in no way OK with the year following the movie with nothing but shitty, ugly, uninteresting toys taking up all the room and not allowing space for chug toys. There has been nothing in Canada since DOTM. I don't even think we will get generations warpath, scourge, thundercracker, or kup

 

It's remarkable to me how little that fans care about the happiness of, well, other fans. Whatever the depths of your contempt for the "Bayverse" designs won't change the fact that I enjoy them. Whatever hyperbolic lengths you go to, you can't make any more impact than I do by liking them. That is the reason why no matter what eloquently extreme language you choose to employ, whenever the thread descends into the aesthetics of the live action movies it must only go nowhere, and fast.

 

Bitching on the internet won't change anything? Say it ain't so!

I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion. I just don't think my opinion should be called "wrong" because "Transformers sucks. We shouldn't care."

 

Please, for the love of god, stop comparing the movies to G1.

You don't see everyone going round saying RiD, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Animated or Prime are shit because they are not like G1, so why do the movies suffer this unfairly?

You know why Sideswipe and Bumblebee look different to the way they looked in G1? Because that's the way they were designed. Oddly enough, it was intentional.

 

Not really it doens´t.

 

Energon Mirage a boat, Energon Ironhide a jeep, Armada Wheeljack a sports car, (pseudo Sideswipe), BW Inferno, an ant. And there´s are others, but these come to mind. None of them "nobodies".

You were saying?

 

Franchise-based movies are generally expected to faithfully represent their source material. Bay said "fuck that" and ignored everything he could outside of Hasbro mandate.

Because those are TV shows. Again, property-based movies are expected to stick to their roots.

Also, all those shows had:
-traditional "Transformers" aestetic
-transformers as actual developed characters
-moderate-to-good, 3-dimensional plot

Because someone told the designers, "See this car? Make a robot. We'll name it later."(Well, except Bumblebee.)

Again, you keep misunderstanding me. I meant after Hasbro started producing shows again.

BW Inferno was a nameslap to keep the name copyright. The others were too, but Takara produced those shows and almost everyone was a new character with a new name. Hasbro had to nameslap those to keep those copyrights from going out.

The movies aren't an imported, dubbed anime. While Hasbro used to nameslap to preserve copyrights, Bay didn't have to. He just couldn't give a fuck.

 

The question is, why would they give it to Ratner?

Are you kidding me! The nerdrage is the funnest and funniest part of the whole thing.

See what I mean?      

 

The fact the movie characters are different is kinda of a poor reason to complain. If Hasbro gave the ok to name the model, it´s the character and that a fact. That it has no resemblance to an 80s character is not an excuse.

 

sweet let's do it XD

Give me two movies in the next 4 years

 

You know what? I like you. You're smart.

 

I guess nothing was wrong with Joel Schumacher's Batman costume, then. Or Bane not being a bounty hunter in Forever. Bat-nipples are a poor reason to complain.

I'm fine with change and reinterpretation. I think everyone expected to see their favorite TF characters reinterpreted properly on the big screen back in 2006. I'm still waiting.

 

Meh. That would work... If I gave a shit about Batman. Even then, I doubt it, saw the movie and never was pissed by it.

 

Yes. Fanboyoptic nerdragium. It's very disabling.

 

Does for me. The Bayformer designs are just way too busy. I like my robots with relatively clean lines and a more traditional Japanese heroic aesthetic. To my eyes the Bay designs are the optical equivalent of nails on a chalkboard.