Scooby-Doo questions

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  1. jorod74

    jorod74 Psycholagnist (Ret.)

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    okay, this is something that is like a mosquito buzzing too close to my ear.

    what's the deal with Scooby Snacks?
    think about it, Scoob is just a Great Dane with pesky high school dropouts and a pothead, yet he has a product named after him.
    so, if he's got his own line of dog food, why does he still eat like a starved horse (could be the never seen weed shaggy partakes?)

    you never see the Scoobies get paid for exposing the charade at the end, they don't seem to have jobs or care about college, so what's going on. really?

    we all know the slogan, "ass, grass, or gas; no one rides for free." but no one has money, onlu Fred and Daphne fool around, so how do they get around the country?

    2 mysteries:
    The Case of Scooby's Brand of Snacks.
    The Case of Unemployed, yet well travelled Do-Gooders.

    any theories?
     
  2. cagliostro

    cagliostro Victi Vincimus

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    Going by the last live action movie, the one that was shown first on Cartoon Network. Which btw is totally worth watching just for the actress who plays Velma. She's just stupid hot. They are just called Scooby Snacks because he loves them so much.

    As to the other stuff, it's a cartoon just let it go and enjoy the camp/nostalgia of the thing.
     
  3. Primus

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    Plus Scooby isn't even his real name IIRC. I believe it is Scoobert.
     
  4. Voiceroy

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    Cogliostro mentioned the Cartoon Network live-action movie, which explains the backstory. Although each character's history could have been better developed, fans will just have to accept that it's now part of Scooby canon/continuity.

    If you've watched the show for any length of time, you know the gang has relatives EVERYWHERE. And they all have like 6 different aunts and uncles -- the best-named one is one of Shaggy's: Uncle Shagworthy from England.

    But here's my theory on it (outside of the 2009 live-action flick).

    It's established that Daphne comes from money. She has rich parents and a butler. She's also depicted as spoiled and a bit of a brat in "A Pup Named Scooby Doo." I always figured her parents fund their adventures because they can't stand her being at home. And Fred's the deadbeat boyfriend who mooches off Daphne but she's got some kind of co-dependency issue with him so she basically does whatever he says, follows wherever he goes and gives him whatever money he needs.

    But they all have rich relatives. I just assumed they drove around and crashed at the homes of relatives and friends and sponged off the generosity of relatives.

    I always thought of Velma as an eccentric genius who is unable to sit still unless she's involved in a project that satisfies her curiosity and both stimulates and challenges her intellect. She hooked up with the gang because they have a hobby that fascinates her and they're never in the same place, so it's fulfilling and rewarding for her.

    Shaggy, like Fred, is also a deadbeat, but of a different variety. And they don't seem to mind having him around -- even though he has an expensive appetite -- because he's a laid-back, fun-loving guy with a sense of humor. I'm not sure exactly what he contributes to the gang, but I like to think that he owns the van. That would explain why they put up with him.

    And thinking of them as a "gang" or "team" in contemporary society, the 2009 backstory fits with them all having a shared interest in ghosts and hauntings. So they become a rag-tag investigative team (with Velma actually being the brains and who also has all the gadgets and technology), and hit the road.

    And here's another theory (possibly implied in the "Harvey Birdman" Scooby spoof): Shaggy grows weed in the van and other remote and secret locations all around the US and sells it, which keeps them funded. That would also explain why they tolerate him.

    As a writer and a Scooby fan since I was very young, if I'd written the backstory I'd have established that Daphne was a spoiled brat and a pretty rotten person in her youth who didn't appreciate her parents and was particularly abusive of her dad who was a decent person and didn't deserve it. Then her father dies and it's a wake-up call for her. She feels remorse for her behavior and believes she should do something to make up for it in memory of her dad.

    Her mother remarries but she doesn't care for her stepfather, which would explain why she abandons her home. Something about Fred reminds her of her deceased father and he thus becomes a surrogate father figure, which would explain the co-dependency. And I'd have explained that after her father's death she has a sizable inheritance or is of the age that she has access to a trust fund her father set up. Instead of squandering her fortune, she uses it to fund their adventures and the "gang" gives her a sense of purpose: she feels she's helping people by solving mysteries and crimes, which serves as redemption for how badly she behaved towards her father when he was still alive.

    I would keep Velma as an eccentric genius, and I wouldn't change anything about Fred. And I would make Shaggy a half-brother of either Daphne or Fred so it makes more sense why he hangs out with them.
     
  5. Primus

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    I think saying Fred is supposed to be a "deadbeat" might be a bit of a stretch. And obviously there aren't supposed to be any direct pot references.
     
  6. Macross7

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    The real explanation is its a cartoon & no one is supposed to think of these things.

    For 'in universe' explanations.

    Whose to say Scooby isn't named after the snacks? Maybe when he was a puppy, he loved them soo much, his owner called him Scooby.

    For money, maybe they get rewards for solving the crimes. Especially when its an expensive item that they recover. There were a few times they caught known criminals so those would get them rewards.
     
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    Short answer: you're over-thinking it

    But definitely watch the Harvey Birdman Scooby Doo spoof, it's very clever and absolutely hilarious. In fact, watch the entire Harvey Birdman series. You won't regret it! It's pretty short anyways: 39 eps in total, approx. 12 minutes each (except for the series finale which was 30 minutes)
     
  8. Primus

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    funny that people on a TF board are using the "it's a cartoon" argument. lol.
     
  9. Voiceroy

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    Not according to the dictionary definition (fails to pay personal debts/expenses), if you think of what might be going on *between* episodes. It's more of a "deadbeat dad" idea, not a slacker like Shaggy, if you know what I'm saying.

    Obviously. But the series never acknowledges their backstory, so if you don't go with the theories that they're mooching off relatives or that Daphne's parents keep them funded, it makes sense that Shaggy having a little weed business on the side would keep them on the road.

    And the reward money theory is the best fit since it avoids the weed issue. That actually would have been a good regular plot point to add to the show: looking up chances for reward money in the newspaper. It's something they probably would add for today's audiences since kids today are more aware of reality.

    Also, in regards to it being a cartoon -- all good fiction is based in fact. Even as a kid, I wondered why the gang was never home.
     
  10. jorod74

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    i ask this because i saw an episode of Cheers where Cliff and Norm are watching "casper the friendly ghost" and they ask this:
    every episode begins with casper all alone. he makes friends, then the next episode, he's all alone again. what the hell happens between episodes?

    i know there are bigger mysteries in the universe (like how a van driving dog and a purple King Kong cousin ride in the city with no problem, or a horse with a git-box fights crime) but it's still fun to wonder, ya know?
     
  11. Voiceroy

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    I tried imagining this for "Star Trek: The Next Generation" and it put me to sleep.

    But the Scooby-Doo series left the door open for a lot of speculation and interpretation. And I've always been fascinated with human psychology in fiction, even if it's a kids show. Why does a character behave the way they do?

    Like, where do Shag and Scoob get their spontaneous crazy costumes?
    And like, how is it that everyone can understand what Scooby is saying?
    Better yet, why doesn't anyone question why or how the dog can talk?
    Why do the villains think they can put on a mask and a costume to scare people away? (Seriously, the villains are complete idiots!)
    What is the villain doing while the gang is setting up their elaborate trap?
    And like, why does Shaggy eat dog treats?

    Yes, it's a kids show, but it's fun to imagine why. And it also makes it easy to parody, as was done on "Harvey Birdman" but even more spectacularly on "Johnny Bravo."
     
  12. Gingerchris

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    I just assume Velma funds the gang by appearing on her own pay-per-view internet porn webcam site.
     
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    "The only mystery here, is why we take our orders from a dick in a neckerchief!"

    Sorry, had to toss in some sort of "Jay and Silent Bob" Scooby Doo reference.

    1) This one may be a mystery. Purhaps they just conveniently are near places that have these wacky things.

    2) He just starts every word off with an R, Ranks Raggy. Don't question how he can talk...stranger things have happened on that show.

    3) They figured they would of gotten away with it, they didn't count on snooping/meddling kids.

    4) This one is simple. The villan always thinks he is so clever, that he doesn't need to keep an eye on them the whole time, or worry about traps. So, they take a break.

    5) Like Gee Scoob, maybe they are "Magic" Scooby snacks!
     
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    One creepy and utterly depressing answer would be that people only see ghosts when they're fast approaching that condition...meaning that all of Casper's new friends died between episodes. :( 
     
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    asa off and on fan i ahave actually noticed the pot refferances myself over time
     
  16. Midnight

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    Daphnie's family is rich so I guess they mooch off of her.

    And maybe Scooby is named after Scooby Snacks and not the other way around. They may have been a preexisting brand.

    Like, the new dog likes to run around! Lets name him Speedy!

    The new dog loves Scooby Snacks! Lets name him Scooby!
     
  17. Voiceroy

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    It's a long-established fact that Scooby's name was inspired by Frank Sinatra's "doo-be-doo-be-doo" scat from the end of his hit song "Strangers in the Night", as credited to Fred Silverman (who Fred "Freddie" Jones was named after as well).

    That's the major complaint I have with CN's live-action TV movie. "Scoobert" sounds ridiculously contrived. Seriously, who names their dog that? Either it was too expensive to use a clip from "Strangers in the Night" so it was a reference to the real inspiration for Scooby's name, or whoever wrote the script was ignorant of this fact.

    It also sounds too similar to the "-bert" named characters from the Dilbert comic strip.
     
  18. Primus

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    I'm pretty sure "Scoobert" was established as his name before the CN movie.

    If wikipedia can be trusted it was established during "A Pup Named Scooby Doo".

     

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