Saw Films -General Opinion *Spoiler Heavy*

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  1. Smasher

    Smasher HUNKY BEATS

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    I realize that this is kind of an old topic, but I just Saw the fourth movie.
    (See what I did there?)

    I was pretty much turned off to the series after the third movie, but someone gave me the DVD this weekend so I watched it.

    Seeing as the movie has been out in the theaters and DVD for some time, I will avoid hiding spoilers.
    Here’s my thoughts:

    Saw –a good horror movie -clever in several ways and definitely worth a watch. Not quite the torture pr0n the sequels became.
    Saw II –not quite as good as the first one, but a good follow up. It was neat how it tied to the first movie at the end.
    Saw III –what the hell happened? The setup is lame, the protagonist was completely incapable of learning (gee, do you suppose that door is going to shut and lock behind you?), and it was Amanda Young, a 107 pound chick, who has been physically overpowering all the victims? What and also ever.
    Also, forced brain surgery = EPIC FAIL.

    Saw IV –So someone on the creative team obviously realized it was a mistake to state the Amanda Young had been doing all of Jigsaw’s physical work for him. But did we have to have an entire movie where the whole point was to show there was another apprentice?
    It seemed this whole movie is just a Saw soap opera and all of the characters are intertwined. I imagine newcomers to the series, or people who didn’t commit the prior movies to memory, were lost.

    Also, they lost me with the traps.
    In the first movie it was creepy because people were kidnapped and held in some unknown place.
    In this movie, Rigg gets knocked unconscious, then he wakes up and he has like a 400 pound torture chair with a hostage in the middle of his apartment? And his TVs have been wired to get Jigsaw’s signal?

    I’m sorry, I can suspend my disbelief but I can’t just turn it off.
    Anyway, I was wondering what the general consensus is on the movie and if anyone was looking forward to the inevitable Saw V and VI.
     
  2. Emperor Mengde

    Emperor Mengde Instrumentalist

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    I've watched any after the first just out of some masochistic need to watch bad horror movies. Even with the first I was pretty much done with the plot when Cary Elwes decides to give up with the saw after it doesn't work on the chain. He apparently didn't notice that he was chained to rusty cast iron pipe.
     
  3. jorod74

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    i got tricked into watching saw 3, and i stormed out of the room. it is torture porn to me.
    being a medic, i see enough at work. i just can't handle a movie or franchise where they drag out misery like that.
    bang. dead. next scene= i am ok.
    saw=unnerving.
     
  4. Vangelus

    Vangelus Long Live the New Flesh Moderator Content Contributor

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    I thought the first one was fun. Second one was kind of meh. Haven't seen the other two.

    I do, however, -adore- the DVD commentaries that involve the Australian(s) and/or Elwes. They are a -hilarious- ensemble, and by far one of the best commentary crews I've ever listened to. Suffice to say, I bought the Director's Cut of the first one just to get another commentary with them. It was that awesomefun.
     
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    I love horror in all forms. The so-called "Torture Porn" films have some appeal in that they can effectively get that disturbing response out of me that so few horror films manage to do today. Sure it's cheap, but so is a big drop in a roller coaster.

    I thought the first film was an interesting idea with a mangled plot and some atrocious acting.

    The second was more of a puzzle box - there really was far less focus on the torture and it was not nearly as gory.

    The third was an adequate wrap up to the enterprise, though again, not nearly as much "torture porn" as some would think.

    (Actually, as I think of it... most of the deaths in Saw are "bang... you're dead" - the traps tend to kill quickly. It's the build up to the death, but I'm not sure that's all so different from knowing that Stalker X is waiting to ambush Slutty Teen Y.)

    I have not seen the 4th film.

    Overall I think Saw has been a notable, if overrated, entry to the genre.
     
  6. jdre_124

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    I digged the first 2 because I actually was intrested in the story for once in a horror film. It wasn't even about the deaths(even though some traps were downright clever).

    One thing I didn't like about the later two sequels, were the traps with no way out. Thats what I always enjoyed watching about the first 2. You didn't know if the victims would be able to escape or not and that built suspense for me. While in the later sequels you have a guy chained by different parts of his body to room and he must pull them free before a bomb goes off. Maybe I could believe he could escape if he wouldn't have had to pull half of his fucking JAW off to break free. Yeah, anyone could survive that.

    Overall
    First 2=Good
    Second 2=BAD
     
  7. Smasher

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    That and the Wyle E. Coyote nature of some of the traps.
    The blocks of ice that melted at exactly the correct rate?
    The torture chair that somehow materialized in Rigg's apartment with an unwilling victim in it?
    The torture bed that was assembled in the seedy hotel with all of the AV connections to and from the room?

    Ludicrous.
     
  8. Brandon

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    Always liked the first film. Thought it was interesting and a little thought provoking. Second was alright. Third wasn't really impressed and never saw the 4th.
     
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    I've only seen the first 2 and thought they were good.
    When I saw the promo's for the third and then suddenly the 4th I knew it had gone down hill fast and that cash cow was strapped to some torture chair and being milked for all it's worth.
     
  10. Vector Sigma

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    I enjyed the first, thought the second was silly but pasable, the third uneccesarily gory and plot with characters i couldn;t care les about, and then came the fourth, when i found I was wrong, the characters in that were ones I cared even less about...
     
  11. Prisoner1138

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    The first was cool, it was fresh, interesting, etc.

    The 2nd one was ok... I didn't like the "hey, it's like a fox reality tv show!" aspect, but it wasn't horrible.

    The 3rd one was... pretty much crap.

    The 4th was retarded. Half of everything that happened made no sense. Ok, so I can imagine 1 person somehow getting the chair and the person into the dudes house, but how the hell does 1 person setup that entire hotel room?

    Oh wait, that's easy. In saw 5, there will be a small army of jigsaw killers, or something else ridiculous. All they've done is turned an alright movie, into a series of crap that'll eventually just go straight to video.

    I find it especially irritating, since I liked the first one, and I HATE horror movies. I don't like mindless gore(not because it grosses me out, but because it's boring), I don't jump and scream when stuff appears on screen. I actually put some thought into the first Saw, and got interested in the gadgets. The sequels? Bleh.
     
  12. pscoop

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    I have only seen the first one, it was interesting. Sounds like 3 and 4 are easy passes though. :lol 
     
  13. TheIncredibleHulk

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    I liked the first three. I liked how they intertwined all 3. There was no reason for the 4th one. It was done. My wife and her sister drug me to see 4. Its a good thing that we watched it at the cheap theater, I'm glad I didn't pay full price for it.
     

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