ROTF vs DOTM box office . . . interesting numbers

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  1. jtscribe

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    Transformers: Dark of the Moon (2011) - Box Office Mojo

    Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009) - Box Office Mojo

    Cume for DOTM - 1,123M

    Cume for ROTF - 836M

    So DOTM was "bigger", right? Hold on . . .

    DOTM US - 352M

    ROTF US - 402M

    Foreign grosses are AMAZINGLY different . . .

    DOTM - 771M

    ROTF - 434M

    Why the discrepancy, do you think? What about DOTM made it such a huge hit overseas in comparison to ROTF? If anything DOTM is more US-centric than ROTF, which went all over the map - China, France, the US, the Middle East, etc. With the exception of the scenes in Russia DOTM is entirely set within the United States save for a few blink-and-you-missed-it scenes showing the pillars in other countries.
     
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    3D ticket costs helped
     
  3. jtscribe

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    Is 3D implementation really that widespread overseas?
     
  4. Ash from Carolina

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    In the US I think the film series is starting to lose some of it's appeal. With the boost of 3D ticket sells Dark of the Moon should have brought in more money than Revenge of the Fallen if the interest was at the same level.

    Throw in that in the US the big retailers said no to the later waves of movie toys and it would seem like people just aren't as crazy for movie Transformers as they were before.

    We've seen the skewed foreign vs with domestic box office with movies like Battleship and John Carter.

    In part it's because the big US films don't have heavy competition from television or native films in some of the places. If you want top quality then the US films are the one's doing on the big scale right now. Hard for a Russian or Chinese film to do the same things as a $150 million or $200 million dollar film.

    When GI Joe 2 got delayed Paramount said that there was huge money in 3D outside of the US because 3D theaters are cropping up like crazy. Given how much they seem to love 3D movies outside of the US a movie like Dark of the Moon would be a big draw.

    Perhaps it's something to do with tastes as well. We are kind of spoiled with entertainment in the US so we can turn up our nose at stuff. For some nations getting to see big explosions and big action on the big screen might be all they still need. If the film is just subtitled then they might want a film where don't really have to follow the plot just watch the pretty.
     
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    For the international gross, the difference is entirely down to 3D ticket prices. As for the differences between the domestic gross, it’s not unusual for the second sequel to start to lose some of the audience. It happened with Spider-Man, the POTC films and now MIB 3. I think that TF4 will take an even bigger hit domestically, but in contrast the overseas takings will probably end up higher than for DOTM, so I'm sure Paramount nor Hasbro will be that fussed.
     
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    people didn't like rotf so less people wen't to dotm
     
  7. Gingerchris

    Gingerchris Telly-headed Tyrant

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    Maybe the UK's cinema tickets cost more.
     
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    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    But overseas people really liked ROTF.
     
  9. Ash from Carolina

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    It is tough getting people to come back for more of what they have already seen. With Star Wars A New Hope made more money than The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi even though Star Wars was a huge pop culture event.

    Once in a while it goes in reverse since Lord of the Rings: Return of the King made more money than the first two, but it really takes one heck of a word of mouth campaign to get that done.

    Which makes it interesting in how they will sell Transformers 4 to a public who thought the films were all wrapped up with the 3rd film.
     

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