ROTF Leader Prime & Human Alliance Scale?

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  1. Razerwire

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    I packed away my ROTF stuff before remembering to compare the scale between Leader OP and the HA guys.

    Is the scale about right or is Prime still a rather small in comparison with the HAs?
     
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    I'd say he's pretty darn close. He's not too small, if anything he may still be a little too big. But if so, it isn't much.
     
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    So a HA human figure could technically fit in the cab of Optimus if he had that option?
     
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    Well it'd fit if you hollowed out enough room, but it'd be a tight fit, and they'd look huge in there.
     
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    I just compared Sam to Primes door, and it's like spot on to how big it should be. I can't see why he wouldn't fit if it weren't for all the gears and stuff.
     
  6. Razerwire

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    Cool.

    I figured if I were to every put them on a shelf again, it'd be him with the HA guys instead of the deluxes. Makes more sense scale wise.
     
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    Alright, give me another mission.





    Sorry it's late, I'm bored and don't want to sleep.
     
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    He's more in scale with the human figures than the cars themselves, if my memory serves correctly. The human figures are actually closer in scale to the deluxe class, truth be told. If they were to make a HA of Prime in the same 1:24 scale, I think he'd have to be $10-15 bigger.
     
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    Yeah, the human figures are way too small for the scale of the HA robots. The bots are, however, pretty close in scale with MP-04. So they are hanging out with him at the moment.

    Leader Prime is much closer in scale to deluxe scale cars.
     
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    I'll never understand the obsession with scale.
     
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    Leader Prime is nowhere near the scale of the Human Alliance transformers. The humans might be close-ish, but they'll still be too big. Leader Prime is WAAY too small to be shoe horned into Human Alliance.
     
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    I hope they do a Human Alliance Jetfire. He'd be 4.5 feet long and would require teamwork to transform.

    And maybe, *maybe*, at that scale he wouldn't have to look like a deformed robot slapped onto the bottom of a plane.

    Also, Starscream woud be 2.5 feet long. Optimus would be 1.2 feet long.
     
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    He comes with a group of former FoxCom employees who work in shifts to help you transform him.
     
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    Agreed.

    I've avoided the HA figures because they are way too big for prime.

    Hakka.
     
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    Helpful...

    Anyway leader Prime is in scale with the deluxes, and not the HA figures.
     
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    As has been said- the humans themselves are closer to deluxe scale than HA scale.

    Now the question of (leader) Prime scale vs deluxe or HA (in vehicle modes). I don't think prime is in proper scale with either. I think he's too large for the deluxes, but small for the HA line. I think he's actually close to right in the middle, but coming down closer to deluxe scale (of course it doesn't help that deluxe has no consistent scale either and most deluxes are not really in scale with each other either- where the HA line is pretty internally consistent).

    This of course is opinion. No measurements of real vehicles have been used to draw these conclusions.
     
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    Compared to deluxe bumblebee, Optimus Prime is 1:2. He should be 1:1.8.
     
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    Generally speaking, I think it's like any other issue: it's something that one has to consider, but one has to determine with Transformers and most of its sub-lines (pretty much any line excluding Alternators/Binaltech, in which scale is one of the things that is very indicative of the line) whether or not a certain thing in comparison/contrast is a deal-breaker or not.

    For some, one may not want a RotF leader Prime on the same display shelf as his HA figures as it may look "off" to him simply because of scale. To another person, this may not be such an issue.

    Regarding the HA line, it's not a "scaled" line, per se, but it is a close approximation to the Alt/BT line, to the point that someone who collects Alts/BTs may want HA toys to be displayed with other things that are scaled as closely as possible. HA is roughly 1:25-1:26ish, btw.

    Hopefully that helps some :) 
     
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    Leader Prime is somewhere around 1:35
    Deluxe BB would have to be shrunken to 5.4 inches long to be the same scale, so the HA BB is way too big.

    For the record, a Peterbilt 379 is 29'2" long and a 2010 Camaro is 15'10" long.

    Also, Jetfire at 1:35 would be about a yard long. (SR-71 = 107 feet)
     
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    A peterbilt 379 is 889cm.
    Leader Optimus is 28cm.

    So Leader OP is 31.75 scale. Or maybe the rear fenders don't count. In which case he is 1:32.32

    I'll call that 1:32 scale.

    Deluxe Bumblebee is 13.6cm.
    A Camaro is 484cm.

    Which makes Bumblebee 1:35.58 scale.

    I'll call that 1:35.

    To be 1:32 scale, a Camaro should be 484cm / 32 = 15.125cm

    15.125cm - 13.6cm = 1.525cm

    So, deluxe Bumblebee would have to be slightly more than half an inch longer to be in scale with leader class Optimus.

    Actually, for toys made to strict budgets, and that transforms into robots, the discrepancy between 1:32 and 1:35 is not too bad, imho.
     

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