ROTF Hightower, Overload, & Scrapper: Life beyond Legends class?

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  1. Tigermegatron

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    because they didn't receive any persona nor speaking lines in the TF2 movie.

    having 7 construction transformers in one singular TF toy line (ROTF) is a bit too much over-kill.

    There's far too many constructicon/devestator toys from past TF toy lines. perhaps hasbro/takara figured there was too many already out there.

    Personally I'd prefer OTHER TF toys get made. like newer generation figures. newer TF Prime figures,newer TF3 figures & so forth.

    IMHO,A true updated homage based off the 1985 G-1 Constructicons/devestator toys. would be 6 basic sized toys. that merged to form devestator.
     
  2. OmarJT82

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    Neither did Jolt, yet he was made into a Deluxe class figure! :inquisiti 
     
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    ^ Jolt is a cool car. Also he had a robot mode, which is more than you can say for anyone but Scrapper.
     
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    I can't understand why people say that Scrapper had less screentime than Long Haul - pretty identical to me.

    I'd love to see a whole set. Even two sets - one set which makes a better-looking Devastator (and which uses all 7) and one set which transforms into nice alt modes. I know that it's almost impossible to get a whole set of triple changers, but I'd pay for 2 sets.

    The Constructicon figures are all really nice - even Scavenger/Demolishor has his own special feel to it. Scrapper is a must, really - he had some pretty decent screentime in robot mode, certainly more than Sideways did. Looking at Legends, Hightower's robot mode doesn't really look like something which will translate well into a bigger figure, though. Overload should look really awesome, but that spider thing looks even better, but I'd buy either.

    My 5-year old keeps bugging me as to why I haven't gotten Overload, Hightower and Scrapper yet, and cannot grasp the concept that they're not available. If Hasbro think that kids only like Bumblebee then they're horribly misinformed - kids LOVE construction vehicles. I'm pretty sure even if there was a Leader Long Haul, Scrapper or Scavenger it'll sell as well as Brawl did, and much better than that HUGE Bumblebee warming shelves all over my place.
     
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    I'd very much like to see Overload made in the Voyager scale, but I assume it won't happen not because of the lack of screen time/the robot mode not being on screen or any other movie-related reason (since there are plenty of movie-style figures being made that weren't in the movie), but because they assume most kids would rather play with cars or jets than articulated dump trucks.
     
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    Aside from your kid (and how much has Dad influenced his preferences, I wonder?), the readily available history of the line has shown that construction vehicles, on average, tend to be poor sellers to outright shelfwarmers. Plus, Hasbro has real sales data which is probably more accurate to what is bought than what one person sees at their region of retail (and the fact they keep making Bumblebees means he is clearly selling, otherwise they wouldn't keep making him)

    As is, I'm surprised we got as many construction vehicles as we did, and I think Hasbro did a decent job selecting the more dynamic designs. All said, I really don't think any of the other three Constructicons would have added much to the toyline that the existing toys didn't.
    Overload? Already got a (better, IMO) dump truck in Long Haul
    Scrapper? Already got a yellow bulldozer thing (which was readily available for a LONG time)
    And Hightower? Didn't look to be all that interesting a design to me
     
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    Holy crap, I know Overload and Hightower would never sell, but dayum, that is some killer concept art and i'd buy whatever was based on it! Legends Devy notwithstanding.
     
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    Hightower doesn't even have proper concept art, I think, and the Legends just has him adjusted slightly. Overload would make an awesome figure, and Scrapper looks pretty good on screen anyway (although I still can't figure out where that ball-and-chain thing he threw came from - it's not like he had a demolition ball or something). I'm sure with all the design already done on Scrapper it's a matter of time before we get a Voyager of him, but I doubt we'll see the other two, sadly. Maybe a few years down the road when the franchise is flagging and people are sick of the same old stuff, then they'll run through the concept art and go "hey, let's try this since we're out of ideas".
     
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    I don't know about you but I've got more important things to worry about.

    Devastator was last seen at the bottom of a pyramid.

    In pieces.

    Hasbro and Takara only get so much time to turn movie designs into toys and some are prioritised over others. They're never going to do every character properly. Scrapper, Overload, Hightower and Elita 1 all got the short straw.

    But life goes on.
     
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    Maybe in a future Wave. For now they're more focused on catering for the traditional market by doing movieverse redecos of G1 and classics characters (and I do love some of them), but along the line they'll throw in the odd real movieverse character, and there's only so many Bumblebees they can make. I hope.
     
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    I would say that I would love to see the other Constructicons made into toys, but the fact that quite a few Demolishers are still warming the shelves of the Meijer near me (and has been for months) makes me hesitate...
     
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    Demolishor is probably the exception - and it was horribly oversupplied with the Shanghai version, the normal red Scavenger version and the pack with the ice-cream truck. Long Haul is really really hard to find these days (completely gone from the normal retail shops - you need to go to a specialist toyshop to find him, and even then it's luck), although Mixmaster is still fairly easily found (not to Demolishor's level, though). However, you could probably say the same of most of the other Voyagers - Recon Ironhide, Mindwipe, Defender Prime, Seaspray, Night Ops Ratchet, Payload, Nebular Starscream and that mother of all shelfwarmers Decepticon Bludgeon, who is still all over the place despite having been put on TRU clearance (an ignominy not even Demolishor has to go through). I'm not sure if they are newer than Demolishor, though, which might explain the numbers.

    I was also hoping for a Voyager red Rampage, so it could tower over Bumblebee, but it doesn't look likely. Although the yellow Rampage is really hard to find, the red Takara version is still relatively common in specialist toyshops.
     
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    You should know my answer...because I wouldn't of made Scrapper otherwise! I figured because I made him, they would of for sure released one...guess I was wrong.

    Hightower and Overload, didn't appear on screen in bot mode, so...
     
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    The thing is, it's a combination of those factors(repetitive alt modes, minimal media support) and other factors, not just 1 single, sole independent, either-this-or-that reason.

    There are lots of cars because cars continue to sell well. Construction vehicles aren't as popular, so there should be fewer. Combine that with minimal media support and some constructicons didn't make the cut. Mindwipe, Incinerator, Stratosphere might not have any media support(or just alt modes in the movie) but they provide variety of alt modes that weren't TFs in the movies.

    And you know... Mindwipe(~Feb'10), Incinerator(~Feb'08), and Stratosphere(~May'09) were very spaced out in their releases. The 4 Constructicons that have been made were packed much closer together.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see a Deluxe Scrapper for the TF3 toyline. Hightower I doubt because of the strange robot mode. Overload I doubt because he probably should be a voyager but they've got a voyager dump truck mold. It's possible but, maybe a red repaint of Long Haul named Overload is more likely.

    As far as what I'd personally want... I'm not a movie molds guy. I'm glad to be getting Classics stuff and wouldn't want to give up a new deluxe Classics mold for a deluxe Movie Scrapper.
     
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    I wouldn't be at all surprised if Scrapper, or a Scrapper clone actually ended up in the movie.

    I think there's still quite a reasonable chance that a Scrapper toy could happen.
     
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    They can keep Hightower in the Legends class. That thing is just one of the laziest designed TFs ever.
     
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    They won't combine, so there is no point to make toys of things that I didn't see in bot mode in the movie.
     
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    I would agree, but Overload's bot mode is wicked.

    And the best ROTF figures were bots that weren't in the movie.
     
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    The weird thing to me is, that there are legends figures and normally when there are legends there are larger ones to follow. Now my memory could be wrong but it does seem to be a trend of theirs. So maybe somewhere in the deep dark halls of Hasbro there are these figures or at least design plans for them.