Am I the only one that is sick of every other comment, post or thread about one of those two? Every single time there is something anywhere related to these movies people always must insist on spouting their opinions on these two and bringing them up. Yes, I understand that they are part of the movie. But honest to God they don't matter at all. If you like these movies or Transformers then these characters shouldn't even be post worthy. With this site specifically it's called Transformer2005, not Women2005. Go to Maxim or Playboy and discuss them there. I'm well aware that this is indeed yet another post about them. But it's a little different Someone just let me know if they agree or not. Sheesh.