i found the look of ROTF Dunerunner very similar to the old Throttlebots, so i looked at the roster to see which one would be most compatible, and Rollbar was the one that won out, his Jeep Altmode would mesh the best with Dunerunner's Off-roader design. so i also made him look rough and dirty, since he's pretty much depicted as a tough as nails Brawn wannabe. cheers, Eisen