Discussion in 'Radicons Customs' started by Seth Sunthay, Jul 19, 2017.
Yup! Just found it.
Oh come on guys, not the scale debate again -_-
That picture does not show MPM Prime at his full height—he can end up being slightly taller than ROTF Prime with the legs extended. Which looks better too
Why not? If we are talking about a new mold might as well express our thoughts on it. If the designers do not agree that's all fine and good, no?
As for him being mistransformed in that pic... if he can be at least as tall as ROTF I guess that's all we can hope for, perhaps it really is MPM Bee that's too big (meaning nothing we can do about it in this discussion :-( )
As I've already said a few pages ago, Prime should be 27-28 cm (the cgi model is 28 feet tall) considering that MPM Bee is 15-16 cm (if I'm not wrong) and also Alien Attack Dino is 15-16 cm (both Bee and Dino are 16 feet tall in the movie). It would also be in scale with Weijiang Meg that is 29-30 cm (30 feet cgi).
Then maybe I'm wrong but I remember Dream Factory DOTM Meg to be around 30-31 cm (32 feet cgi), so also this scale correctly.
A Prime that size will also resolv the tiny truck issue.
The issue is if Alien Attack decide to upscale him, he won't fit with any future additions to the MPM line, official or otherwise.
scale is fine.
In the first trilogy, Megatron is 35 feet
Well, according to @Seth Sunthay, AA is making this for the MPM line. So realistically, it sound be around a similar size to what the official is.
The more accurate you guys make Prime, the more inaccuracies I'm beginning to see in other figure. And that sucks. It makes me want everything redone so I can start from scratch with a true masterpiece line.
Anyway, as for the height problems, I'm fine with how it is now. It sounds like Dino will be half an inch or less shorter than MPM Bee which puts him at the correct scale with MPM Prime. If we just take a loss in scale with Bee and center everything around Prime, then I'll survive. If we change Prime, then everything EXCEPT Bumblebee will be out of scale. That is not good.
However, Bee is the talllest carbot of the movies, not that big, but it doesn't make a disproportion.
That is correct. Especially if we are assuming he was 18 feet all this time (I know people don't like that excuse), then he's nearly perfect. I'm willing to bet that's the case and MPM Barricade will be shorter
He's actually not. Dino is the same height, Crosshairs is about a head taller, and the wreckers were taller too if I remember correctly.
FFS. Can we just get a decent figure that checks the boxes.
Isnt that what they're trying to accomplish with this thread? Lol
Dunno. Got lost in the scale convo again.
That's unfortunately one of my boxes I'd wish to get checked.
yo can I get in on this design action?
First off here is just me giving an opinion on what I feel like should also be done to the figure.
If it is possible to pull of while still looking good,Make the windows completely translucent.If you make them dark like the picture you showed.It could look look like there is an actual inside rather than robot panels.
I know I say this alot but here is what I feel is necessary for a masterpiece depiction of any transforming car or even jet/helicopter...Rubber tires.If model cars can have them,then why not transformers who are meant to be the best depiction of said character. I will make pics of the tires.
Also better weapons.The one that comes with the actual mpm figure is a bit to big.1. Make the ion cannon have a bit of a smaller and make that part in front of the gun handle not stick out as far. The energy blades could be done a bit smaller as well. Again I will draw what I mean in a bit.
It only looks like that because the designers of the model for got about realism for a second.
Giving it some thought, I think I'd prefer an "idealized" robot mode, using the truck-accurate tanks instead of the mass-shifting cgi-accurate ones.
I'm not a dedicated movie fan though, so take my input with a grain of salt.
But to be honest, it's old hat and one of the very last things that we'd have to be concerned with. Resizing parts to fit is easy. Once you get everything to one set scale (like say the current MPM scale) then you can resize the whole thing based on the already in-scale parts that match each other.
People argue it all the time, but there has to be some sacrifice between scale and the ability to actually transform and pose it, especially when there's other figures that go both ways on said scale chart above and below what Optimus would be.
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