Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by OptimusSolo, Feb 9, 2009.
Sorry Swoop,but Prowl.
Swoop was the smartest of the dinobots but Prowl was his right hand man
Swoop, I just think even though he's the weakest dinobot he is a fighter, he's got fire power and flight over prowl and prowl is smarter but I just figger swoop will panic him with that kind of of fire power raining down on him, so I'm giving the dino my vote.
Some of the greatest warriors throughout history have also been brilliant tacticians. I don't see there being any difference here with Prowl. I believe he is seriously underrated and without a doubt the more advanced autobot of the two. Yes Swoop is capable of delivering a certain amounts of licks but in the end he would be just another notch in the badass second in command's "belt". Prowl all the way baby!
Prowl The Spock of Transformers
I was already leaning this way but Smog and others more than convinced me. My vote goes to Prowl.
Except Prowl doesn't panic. The guy's a machine (speaking metaphorically here).
I agree that flight and powerful missiles are a big equalizer, but Swoop's personality suggests a tendency to get too close to his targets... and Prowl will take full advantage of every little mistake Swoop makes.
Honestly, it can still go either way quite easily... but Prowl's extreme level of competency makes him a difficult foe.
On a side note, if Prowl gets the upset (should it even BE an upset? Should Swoop actually be seeded higher?), that would mean both he and Jazz proceeded to the next round over Dinobots... and I have to wonder... Jazz vs Prowl... who would win THAT one?
I meant to vote for Prowl but clicked on Swoop by mistake.
Ya I went back and forth on that possibility numerous times. Maybe we should have a tournament in the future with all 'standard' size bots.
To answer your question though, Prowl beats Jazz!
my gut reaction when I saw the two names was Swoop because Prowl always struck me as more of a commander/leader than a one on one fighter. He's Primes #1 because he always in control, able to take command when need be. Then it occured to me, Swoop is a follower. He's really most effective providing support and cover for rampaging brute force. I'm not saying he can't hold his own in single combat but Prowl clearly has an advantage here by not being affected by Swoop's psychological weapons
This is a tough call... because they're both useless.
Lets start with Prowl, shall we? What continuity are any of you basing your theory that Prowl is a closet badass? Would it be the recent All Hail Megatron series where he got clocked by Ironhide? Would it be the animated movie where he went down in one shot from a Scavenger? Or perhaps the Marvel comic series where he was severely injured by kick back and blown to pieces by Soundwave and Frenzy? His techspecs aren't bad, I'll give you that, but in every continuity Prowl is good only for target practice all the way. I don't agree with this portrayal (I've always felt Prowl got the short shrift), but there it is.
Then there's Swoop. I love Dinobots, but here again, in every battle he's the first to go down. Here even his tech specs doom him as his wings are vulnerable to enemy fire. For that reason alone I give the fight to Prowl. Prowl wins in a slap fight with lots of hair pulling.
I'm really torn on that one... I think it would be a REALLY close fight. Stats-wise, they make for a very near match, with Jazz wielding a tiny bit more Firepower and Skill, and Prowl a lot more Strength and Endurance. Both are fast and accurate, cool and efficient, and sharp tactical players. They know each other's style intimately... so neither would underestimate the other. And neither is likely to make any mistakes... it would be a showdown between specialists, and one hell of a cat and mouse game I would think.
Honestly, I lean towards Jazz on this one, though it wouldn't be easy. His penchant for deception and creative improvisation might give him the slight edge he needs... he's just tricky enough to perhaps be able to outmaneuver Prowl's computer-like brain and razor precision. Jazz is also a crack shot, and fast enough to take advantage of any opening. His weapons are more damaging than Prowl's, and although Prowl is physically the more powerful of the two, I would probably rate Jazz better for agility and close-quarters combat.
While I consider both to be excellent warriors, I think ultimately Jazz is more of the field agent, while Prowl is more the strategist. One on one, when push comes to shove I'd give Jazz the dirty win.
1 more vote and this becomes the third most voted on contest at 54 votes
2nd place = Menasor vs Warpath at 56
1st place = Sludge vs Jazz at 61
You give Prowl far more props then I would but we ultimately agree on the outcome.
Contest #7 is official with a final score of
Swoop - 13
Prowl - 43
Again, discussion can continue but all voting for this contest is FINAL at this time. For the overall grid or the next matchup check the "March Madness Tournament" or the "[Region 3] Contest 8" threads.
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