Customs: Question: custom transformer buildoff

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  1. MALFUNCTION

    MALFUNCTION Well-Known Member

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    QUESTION:I know collaborations are ok in there what about friendly custom buildoffs or should i say radicon battles? no bad mouthing or put downs just constructive crititicism and votes. Is this aloud?
     
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  2. Drpee

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    That would be great...but im afraid it might not work, i can see something like that leading to some major problems and flame battles between some people on here. Theres some big egos around, and some even bigger tempers. If it could just stay fun and harmless it would be a great idea but this is the internet and things get taken too seriously. I doubt it would go down too well. Im not interested in competition but it would be cool to see something like that happen as long as it stayed civil and ultimately pointless fun and not intended to act as a vehicle to "prove" who is the best and worst etc etc. Due to the ego's the latter is bound to happen unfortunately.
     
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  3. hXcpunk23

    hXcpunk23 The Chaos Bringer

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    The idea is cool, but it's been attempted before and just the talk about it went downhill fast. I'd just stick to something similar to our Sector70 contest--all entries are anonymous and no one posts WIP on anything. That way, the winner will be judged solely on the custom and not on anything else (such as name recognition). Everyone has a fair shot and it doesn't let egos get in the way. If a custom build-off or Radicon Battle were done like this, it might be cool. You could appoint one person to post take charge of it (have everyone entering send your images to him/her once the custom is complete) and keep names and WIP out of it. Just let it all be anonymous and let the viewers decide or vote.
     
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    Now thats a good idea! They should do something like that here.
     
  5. MALFUNCTION

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    I agree with that, that would be coo who would i have to talk to get something like this started. Also is this true, if you are the first to build a custom combiner does that concept belong to you, if so who has given you those rights?
     
  6. hXcpunk23

    hXcpunk23 The Chaos Bringer

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    I'd say post about this in Radicon Discussion and see what others think about it, then see how the mods feel about it. If this is done just for fun, I don't see any harm in it.

    As for custom combiners and who owns the concept(s), it's a good understood general rule that you toss some credit to the originator or even others who may have inspired you. You don't necessarily need to name names, just do like I've done in the past and mention those that inspired you (in a general format like this: "I'd like to thank everyone who has done this custom and inspired me to do my own" or something similar--you can also mention if it is a certain person who inspired you, such as Ptitvite, F_R, me, Joe Blow, Jane Doe, etc). It's just common courtesy--I don't think the kitbashing police will come after you if you don't, but it's just nice to do (same with writing and plagiarism--you cite a source when you use something in your work).
     
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    This is your first post outside your own threads, and that's what you have to say? I'd recommend getting more established, show some originality and then wave your arms around inviting people to "challenge" your skills....

    Last I checked, Radicons doesn't operate in this fashion.
     
  8. MALFUNCTION

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    sorry i was told by punk23 to post here to see what people think?
    Well what do you think?
     
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    We have contests from time to time, but nothing like a "build-off". f_r would be correct in saying that Radicons doesn't operate this way. Radicons isn't a place to see who is "king of the hill", so to speak; rather, Radicons is a place for artists who enjoy creating things from the TF mythos to share among themselves as well as the rest of the interwebz audience. This isn't the place to "openly challenge" anyone (hence the title edit); it's just not how Radicons roll.

    In short, if we offer a "contest" of sorts, you'll know about it :thumb 
     
  10. MALFUNCTION

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    ok no problem, no worries on the title edit. Was just an idea but please do keep me posted on any contests, just thought it would be fun.
     
  11. hXcpunk23

    hXcpunk23 The Chaos Bringer

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    Just to clarify, I meant to come and ASK about this sort of thing, if you were interested in it. I didn't mean to come in and create a challenge thread. This section is for discussion of various topics--that's basically why I mentioned to you to come here, man. Just keep doing what you enjoy and as SQ7 said, if there's a contest, it will be known and you can join in.
     
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    I'd be in if the deadline was, oh say.......2012!:eek: 
     
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    Superquad7 We're only human. Super Mod

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    Just keep watching our frontpage: www.radicons.com :wink

    It's all good in the hood, bud :thumb 
     
  14. MALFUNCTION

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    hahah, i apologize if i came off wrong, i just went in here not just go around challenging people i was just checking to see if it was ok thats why i didnt post anything in the radicon section. The answer was pretty much no so scratch that didnt mean to get you in trouble punk23.
     
  15. Sound Blaster

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    Totally agree with you there Drpee!

    Why can't some people see that this is supossed to be a FUN hobby??

    You know I know some people pimp their customs here and that's all they do then go to E-Bay to sell them..fine whatever or some people make a job out of doing that that's another thing fine by me...but when people start making it a contest or comparing what should/should not be a custom is what is wrong! and you know most of the time it isn't your fellow customizer that's doggin you it's some idiot that likes to start trouble and get things going so even though it's a good idea I wouldn't do it...


     
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    No one's in trouble yet. One would know if that were the case :wink:  The main thing is to READ THE BOARD RULES as well as READ THE RADICONS INFO SECTION. I know that sounds like stating the obvious (and it is!), but both the TFW2005.com Staff as well as the Radicons Staff continually are surprised by this very omission by so many users.

    For the most part, this is a fun hobby for most. For others it's other things. Regardless of things being a hobby or not, people should be kind to each other.

    I think if someone has to come to this board or any other for others to stroke their ego so that they have a sense of worth, they're very much misguided. I have to say that earlier tonight I was a bit beside myself when I made the statement that an artist needn't use this board to try to be "king of the hill" or anything. For me to feel the need to make such a statement seems silly. [However, I can't say I share that same sentiment when it comes to Radicons as a whole though, because we do strive to be the very best in every possible way. I also feel silly pointing out that's apples and oranges though, but I do want to be clear with my words :lol ]

    I'd also like to say that I've seen Radicons who simply can't handle criticism well. This is certainly not to negate the fact that it is not only a suggestion but a requirement here to encourage others with your words of critique. That being said, just because someone doesn't fall at one's feet to kiss them isn't the time to jump up and down like a kid throwing a temper tantrum.

    Again, I really feel this comes back to people simply being idol factories and not behaving well. People like what they like and dislike what they dislike. Though I may not like Beast Wars doesn't mean I have to tear someone down because they don't agree. Though I won't make such a foolish statement to say "because it's art and it's all good" or something, just because SQ7 doesn't like something doesn't mean it's "bad" or the "wrong way to do it". I'll simply say that part of being a good artist is being a good person :) 
     
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    Amen to that SQ7! I think it also goes without saying there shouldn't be lame low star ratings and/or 3-4 word criticisms on threads like "I no like".////it's nice to take the2 minutes to elaborate.
    nor should there be assumptions or prejudice interpretation when entering a thread. I admit, I know many of you feel as thought you *might* know my personal intentions, but the bottom line and ultimate reason I do customs...is because I love it, and it's my hobby. I don't come here to pimp auctions, actually no more than 1 or 2 people on TFW even ever bid on my auctions.
     
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    I agree here. I really don't care for the star rating system myself. It allows for both an underlying competitive aspect as well as allows anonymous discrediting, based sheerly on personality clashes, envy, or other "politics". It does not bring any objectivity in my opinion.

    My thoughts on improving the star system would be to allow only commenters to vote, and I think their vote should be revealed in their comment box. This would allow the commenter to fortify his rating with his comment, and vice versa.:thumbs2: 



    You know your true motives, so don't let things get under your skin. You have the firepower to back the prices people are willing to pay, I always believed if you could get paid doing something you love, you'll never work a day in you life!!:thumbs2: 

    And I've said it many times before to all of those who customize and do decide to sell them, I hope you make a million!:thumbs2: 
     
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    That's true but there is a least two customizers here (Who shall remain nameless) who ONLY come here to pimp their customs to gain interest then when the interest is done then they post the E-Bay links...Those are the people that I can't stand that only do it for the money and only care about themselves and USE this site and their own personal platform.If people like that actually CARED about this genre enough to want to be a part of the community enough to post about other subjects than what they are doing then it would be OK but they don't I've seen too many people on other sites do that same thing.....:2c: 


     
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    I have to strongly agree with this. Dont forget those who post pictures of their work in other peoples customs threads which end up getting hijacked or even in other completely unrelated threads and forums. I wont name names either but as you said if those people loved the genre so much they would be more easily accessible and try to help people when they have questions instead of ignoring them because their technique is a "secret" for fear other people would copy them and theyd lose those all important bids on ebay. As members of the community these people should be more than willing to help others out especially when they preach every 5 seconds what the radicons is all meant to be about, but they dont actually practice what they preach.
    :2c: 
     

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