Question about the AllSpark/ Shards

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  1. Puntoue

    Puntoue Well-Known Member

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    Just a question that's been bugging me for a while now, since the first movie infact, and that is why is it when anything electronic is brought to life by the Allspark it's a decepticon?

    For example the phone and vending machine in the first movie are brought to life and then up and start killing people for no known reason.

    In RoTF the Allspark shard lands in the kitchen and brings to life a small army of decepticons, why?

    I don't know if it was explained in the comics or what not and if it is sorry on my part, I also wouldn't mind hearing your theories on the matter.
     
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    I don't think they're Decepticons just sparkless mindless Transformers.
     
  3. Puntoue

    Puntoue Well-Known Member

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    What about Wheelie? He was even sent on a mission from Soundwave.
     
  4. alanyap

    alanyap Will work for LEGO

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    This, my fren , had been discussed to death back in 2007.

    Violent doesnt mean their are aligned to decepticons. Maybe thats what normal baby 'bot would react.

    I believe even earthen newborns would cry and even make a huge fuss, kicking and punching.. do we immediately label them as Satanists?
     
  5. Puntoue

    Puntoue Well-Known Member

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    Sorry I didnt know it was already discussed, that does not explain why Wheelie is a decepticon
     
  6. Creaky

    Creaky King of Puppies

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    Wheelie was never an allspark monster. He's a small, normal transformer.

    The fresh creations are sparkless, mindless beasts.
     
  7. RedWolf

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    "Prime intended to use the AllSpark to repower Cybertron as it was intended. Megatron wants to abuse it by creating Transformers directly, which makes souless, primal Transformers." - Orci

    Basically they are animals.

    Decepticon is not race but a movement started by the Fallen and later Megatron.

    Though the literal meaning of Autobot is Autonomous Robotic Organisms it is not just a description. The Autobot as a nation rose up from a dark age following the end Dynasty of Primes civilization. If Optimus is to be believed their empire civilization stood for freedom, peace and justice.

    As for Wheelie he called himself a Salvage Scrap Drone. Which would indicate the Decepticons built him for that purpose.

    I think Megatron intended not only to create an army of soldiers with the Allspark and later the Sun Harvester's Energon but also an army of slaves.

    Which was pretty much the beef of the Autobots not liking his tyranny.

    Remember Barricade's motto? To Punish and Enslave.
     
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    Ephland Let's Go Rangers

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    TF1 attempted to explain it, actually. It said our technology was reverse-engineered from Megatron. I guess that means "evil" is a technical aspect.
     
  9. RedWolf

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    Technology is neutral hence it can be dual use.

    I'm more inclined to think they are just animals than evil. To be evil one has to be sentient and sapient.
     
  10. Puntoue

    Puntoue Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for clearing all that up Redwolf.
     
  11. Hellscream15

    Hellscream15 Hi... Bl

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    Your all wrong, its not instinct, if you look closely in ROTF, when the kitchen bots are about to enter sams room, you can see the one @ the left has a silver decepticon symbol. The best explination is that scince all technology is reversed engineered from megatron, that would be the cause.
     
  12. Nevermore

    Nevermore It's self-perpetuating a parahumanoidarianised!

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    Where do you get the idea from that Wheelie was created by the Allspark on Earth?
     
  13. Puntoue

    Puntoue Well-Known Member

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    I assumed this because an entire room of electronics come to life and tries to kill Sam and since he was small and looked liked the others I though he was one of them.

    Is it explained that he isn't one?
     
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    He identifies himself as a salvage scrap drone working for the Decepticons. The fact that he talks and displays Iintelligence" are pretty sure signs he's not an Allspark creation. The few times we see the Allspark create life are the only times, under specific circumstances. There was no point in time the shard could have created Wheelie anyway.
     
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    The Allspark creates wild primitive life.

    Wheelie was clearly smart and was in communication with Soundwave.
    He even comments to Mikaela "I'm just a little salvage-scrap drone".
     
  16. Dinodigger97

    Dinodigger97 germinates within you.

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    they're all just things that are on none's side.
    the only Allspark Mutation that is on a side is Dispensor who had a Robot Heroes fig. where he was a Decepticons.
     
  17. Hellscream15

    Hellscream15 Hi... Bl

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    The kitchen bots had DECEPTICON SYMBOLS ON THEM!
     
  18. RedWolf

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    Dispensor and Ejector are not Decepticons in the films. Hasbro just wanted to make toys its their thing.

    Decepticon is a political entity. Else why could Jetfire, Wheelie and Brains switch sides?
     
  19. Puntoue

    Puntoue Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    My friends mum works for Dyson and we got to see ROTF for free because of the "Decepticon Dyson" in the movie, thats how it was promoted.
     

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