Prime is so weak

Discussion in 'Transformers Robots In Disguise / Prime Discussion' started by titannova, May 19, 2012.

  1. titannova

    titannova Active Member

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    Optimus was always considered the strongest bots before the episode Triangulation released, when dreadwing single handedly beat the prime into ground. Then I look bakcward to season 1, skyquake has done the same thing, only getting into the trap by accident after that.
    It seems either of the twins can defeat the leader of autobots with no doubts. I really cannot believe this. Why prime is so weak, especially when facing these two? (Well, he did show his strong side when kicking megatron's ass)
     
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    Because if this, you call him "so weak".

    Seriously?
     
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    I find something interesting
    granted we don't know the results of Toxicity and triage but what if the autobots got their relics, then that would mean Prime would be the only one who didn't scuessfully retrieve the relic...odd huh
     
  4. TheMrmaster21

    TheMrmaster21 I will swallow your soul.

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    So the first lieutenant of the Decepticons can't be a worthy opponent? I actually like that he's almost equal with Optimus. Lower ranking=/=weaker unless your not Dreadwing or Skyquake.
     
  5. SouthtownKid

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    Heroes SHOULD be weaker than the antagonists they face. That's what makes them heroic. If Optimus is stronger than everyone, then he's not a hero when he beats their asses. He's a bully.

    And he hasn't been shown to be stronger than Megatron. Exactly the opposite. Megatron is stronger, so it's heroic every time Optimus manages to pull out a win.
     
  6. titannova

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    All right, I meant so weak physically
     
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    That's what I meant too.
     
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    cuad VOK EMISSARY

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    He also got spanked by vehicons, Knockout, and MECH.
     
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    The leader of the Autobots shouldn't be the strongest Autobot, he should be wise, moral and a good judge of character
     
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    How does that make Optimus weak? If anything it just reflects on how "strong" Dreadwing is, instead.
     
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    This.
     
  12. soundwaverulls

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    I suppose you'd rather have unstoppable movie Optimus You... If I continue, I'd get in trouble.
     
  13. DanicusTF(cdn)

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    I am sure if Optimus wanted to KILL Dreadwing, you would have seen some results. The bot is trying to save/recruit him. Can't do that by making him go offline.
     
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    soundwave142 Decepticon over-seer

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    like soundwaverulls said, imagine if optimus won every single fight.....that would be boring..optimus was alse kinda holding back while fighting dreadwing , he had a chance for a headshot but instead just collapsed snow on him. We saw what prime did in 2 shall fall. optimus is strong an all but his quick thinking can save him too.
     
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    A combination of these. Optimus has been shown to be very strong, but it would be a bad writing decision to make him the strongest robot in the universe. On top of that, it's been observed repeatedly in the show that Prime is overly cautious, and his values and feelings cause him to hold back during a fight. His opponents have no such reservations.
     
  16. mrdecepticon

    mrdecepticon Decepticon Leader

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    This series is more realistic in tone as-well this version of Prime was originally a data clerk unlike Megatron whom hailed as a gladiator so Prime doesn't have that same experience in combat.Hes never chose to fight he felt he had to. And people have given good points as to why Prime is like he is in this series. If he was unbeatable he would be boring. Also on at least two separate occasions Prime has lost to Megatron and would have dealt the death blow to Prime. It seems to me when he fights he has to resort to speed and a boost to get good hits in for the most part.
     
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    Saved me typing these words, thanks.
     
  18. titannova

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    I dont believe in your quoted words. Heroic thing is to forgive those who make crimes and give them another change to side with good guys, not to always try those out of limits. And that is also what Rachet does not agree on.

    Otherwise, do you think superman is a weaker guy who has only one weakness?
     
  19. mrdecepticon

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    Truth is I dont think Prime is weak his character is what it needs to be.
     
  20. mrgalvaprime

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    But, this is a work of fiction. They try to make good, well-written characters. Optimus is more Batman than Superman and most people will argue that batman, while weaker than superman physically, is a better (and braver) CHARACTER because of that
     

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