Police brutality is awesome

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  1. llamatron

    llamatron Shut up, Nigel. TFW2005 Supporter

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    Dark_Convoy Old Bastard Veteran

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    I just saw this on the news, yes, the guy asked a stupid question, but he didn't deserve to be tasered and arrested for it.
     
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    Stop wiggling, it's the law
     
  4. Quantum_Penguin

    Quantum_Penguin Be seeing you...

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    Ultimately this will be counterproductive as it'll just become more ammunition for conspiracy nuts.
     
  5. llamatron

    llamatron Shut up, Nigel. TFW2005 Supporter

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    Extended version.

    Some things to note:

    He does his little spiel / rant and asks his questions. Once he's finished Kerry is about to give his response when the cops just drag him out of there. He asks why he's being arrested, so they chuck him to the floor and zap him.

    There's an interview with some witnesses at the end. The first girl they interview is really hot and you get a nice side on view of her breasts.
     
  6. Aaron

    Aaron Master of Crystalocution Moderator Content Contributor

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    From what I saw on the news, he asked his question, asked another question, asked a third question, and when he was asked to leave he refused. After a few refusals the campus police asked him to leave. After that they bodily removed him. He went the passive resistance route and while refusing to reply to police responses he was Tasered.
     
  7. Omega Supreme-1

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    I hope that he sues the cops...honestly, why was this necessary?
     
  8. ABH1979

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    Yep.

    He had more than enough opportunity to cooperate before he was tasered. The police did nothing wrong.
     
  9. Dark_Convoy

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    And still, I feel he did not deserve it, if he had gotten violent with the cops I'd say that they should have zapped him, but these guys were far too taser happy.

    On top of that it appears they used the tasers in drive stun mode, which does not incapacitate a person, it just "hurts them really bad" in hopes of subduing them.

    Kind of like an electronic nightstick, would people be as accepting of how the situation was handled had they thrown the guy on the ground and beat him?
     
  10. Prowl_Delta_31

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    ?????????????????????????

    POLICE BRUTALITY????????????????????????????????
    This guy deserved every bit of what he got. The Police Officers are doing their job by the book. The guy's only reason to ask a ? was to cause disruption and maybe get a laugh. The way police work is off a chart called a Force Continuum..see below.................................................

    Subject ................................Officer
    Deadly Force Assault .............Deadly Force
    Active Aggression ..................Intermediate Weapons
    Defensive Resistance ............Hard empty Hand Techniques
    Passive Resistance ...............Soft Empty Hand Techniques
    Verbal Non Compliance .........Verbal Direction
    Psychological Intimidation .....Officer Presence

    Police Officers work on what is called a 1 plus 1 theory meaning that whatever the level the Subject is at the Officer can go one level above him. Rule of thumb is use the minimum level of force necessary to control the subject or the situation.

    The Subject started at Verbal Non Compliance so the Officers used Soft Empty Hand Techniques (holding the subject trying to escort him out). The subject then went to Passive Resistance by not leaving but not pushing the Officers. Subject then went to Defensive Resistance by pushing the Officers away from him. The Officers after many times telling him to "STOP RESISTING" used the tazer. In all this was a good hit and by the book. Also take in consideration that you have a high profile speaker at the event. This is not "POLICE BRUTALITY".
     
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    Nice job on the Passive Resistant. I am impressed sir!!
     
  12. Omega Supreme-1

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    I'm sorry, but when the public servants starts stepping out of line like this shit needs to happen. If the guy took a swing, then I could support the tazering but this was fucking ridiculous.
     
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    Yeah, I don't really see it as police brutality.
     
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    Which is the whole point of doing it.
     
  15. Dark_Convoy

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    And please, don't anyone take me the wrong way, I'm not a cop hater by any means, I just feel like the situation could have been handled differently.
     
  16. Bryan

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    I dig the Taser when it's used as an alternative to shooting a suspect. I hate the Taser when it's used as a way for lazy cops to aggressively subdue individuals that don't need violent treatment.

    In this instance, while I might disagree with the victim's behavior, he had every right to act like he did. Period. The campus police were completely unjustified in removing him, much less Tasering him.

    And I'll throw some blame on the students present also. They behaved with cowardice when they stood by and watched as the civil rights of a fellow American were denied.
     
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    So what you are saying is that if you was in a fight you are gonna wait for someone to knock the hell out of you or swing a knife before you do anything at all......I call bullshit.
     
  18. Omega Supreme-1

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    The job of a law enforcement officer is just THAT. You ENFORCE THE LAW. You don't take the first step and go above. You're not above the law, you only enforce it. If someone pulls a gun, then you can shoot. You don't shoot someone because they could potentially have a gun. The guy didn't assualt anyone, so why did he deserved to be assaulted with a fucking taser?!
     
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    What Civil Rights was denied????? If you are talking about the 4th Amendment you better reread it cause he has all the rights in the world to Freedom of Speech until you start with the Disorderly Conduct.
     
  20. ABH1979

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    We must not be watching the same video, because what I saw was the officers trying to escort the kid away, him resisting, breaking lose of them numerous times, and finally having to be tasered, as a final measure.
     
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