Plot holes or loose ends?

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  1. encline

    encline customizer of love TFW2005 Supporter

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    O.k. I have read A LLLOOOTTTTT about plot holes? What didn't add up to everyone? The plot seemed pretty solid. Cube is on earth, Transformers go to find it, fight. Autobots win for now. I would have to say I saw loose ends, to be addressed in 2 & 3, but no HUGE plot holes.

    What do you think? Pot holes or loose end. Share your reasoning.

    A couple that bug me:
    Barricade missing=loose end. He is coming back
    Glen=well, he was just kinda there, but he cracked the code and ate the whole plate.
    I also wanna know, WHAT FREAKIN PROGRAM DID HE USE TO TRANSLATE CYBERTRONIAN? =Plot weakness, but, not a hole.
     
  2. lightdestroyed

    lightdestroyed Stronger than all!

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  3. rob_charb

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    I'm not sure if you could call it a plot hole, but the biggest thing that bugged me was how the Transformers had a weekness to cold, to the point where they would go into stasis-lock...yet travelled unprotected through freaking space!
     
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  5. Rampage01

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    Actually, they do have an additional covering when they travel through space. You can see it burning up and breaking apart as the Autobots are entering the atmosphere.

    Also, there's a huge difference between being cold, and being buried under a glacier.
     
  6. rob_charb

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    Ah yes, I had forgotten about the bits of stuff breaking off them. However, that doesn't explain how BB was put into stasis-lock by the S7 guys gizmos. Unless they sprayed something out that was well below 0 degrees, in which the case guy Sam sprayed would have been royally messed up.
     
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    Sudden, rapid drop in body temperature coupled with a lack of energy could probably induce stasis lock. Kind of the giant robot equivalent of hypothermia.
     
  8. Dropshot

    Dropshot Transform your destiny

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    A plot hole could be that the allspark restored frenzy's body, but it didn't restored bumblebee's legs. Others are either mistakes or poor writing.
     
  9. Sparky Prime

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    My thought was that they were spraying Bumblebee with Liquid Nitrogen, which would be below −196 °C/−321 °F to keep it from boiling. And those guys who were spraying Bumblebee looked to be wearing some fairly thick suits to prevent them any harm if they got accidentally sprayed themselves.

    Interesting observation, but I wouldn't necessarily call that a plot hole. This is pure speculation, but it could be that repairs like that require some focus on the Transformer's part, and Bumblebee was focused on just getting the Allspark out of there at the time.
     
  10. Squints

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    Actually, the Allspark (or maybe residual energy from its dispersal) may have healed Bee's legs--notice that in the ending he can still form an entire car. Without legs, that Camaro would have been missing its trunk, if the CGI transformation is anything like the toy.
     
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    It is also possible that the Allspark can not make repairs in its super compact mode.
     
  12. sixshot2K

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    I think it's safe to assume that Bumblebee has been repaired by the time we see him as a car again, at the end of the film... I always thought so anyway.
     
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    Don't forget intense heat which can damage their armor (wait a moment they don't have armor) their exposed superstructure....So hot and cold both hurts the Transformers...
    ...Yup...
     
  15. soundwave86

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    If heat could hurt transformers, wouldnt bonecrusher hurt himself by blowing up a bus on purpose by slamming into it?
     
  16. Sparky Prime

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    No, the heat from that bus explosion wouldn't be enough to hurt him. It takes an extreme amount of heat to hurt these Transformers, such as the heat generated by the sabot rounds.
     
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    I mentioned this in one of the many other plot question threads...

    Diesel doesn't explode being that it is non-combustible. Flammable yes, combustible no.
    Also to my understanding, there are 3 types of commercial deisel... Deisel #1, 2, and 4.
    They burn at the following temps

    Diesel Fuel #1: Between 350.33F and 623.93F.
    Diesel Fuel #2: Between 488.93F to 544.73F.
    Diesel Fuel #4: 505.13F.

    I could not find how hot kinetically a sabot round gets when it impacts upon a target but i have heard that they get like plasma hot.
    And according to my limited knowledge of thermodynamics is at least 2 or 3 degrees hotter that the burn point of diesel. Perhaps more than that!
     
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    I would just assume that the allspark emits energy pulses, which one of these, channeled trough a TF body, can upgrade it or restore it.

    I always assumed ratchet did that, but maybe, bumblebee's voice was restored by the allspark, and he didn't notice until the end of the battle when he speaks to Prime

    I also thought that, but it created Dispensor and the other sparklings while compacted. My guess is that Bumblebee didn't know how to activate the allspark to restore his legs or he forgot it completely because the heat of the battle.
     
  19. Optimus Layne

    Optimus Layne Autobot Commander

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    yea i agree...

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    Just like G1, the movie is a bottomless pit of errors
     

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