Fan Art: phase one: design (movie addons)

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  1. f-primusunicron

    f-primusunicron Unicron Herald BladeZero

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    well first of all
    what im talking about?
    im planing to make custom addon sets for movie jazz(or ani edition of the mold)
    and ironhide
    to make the look better
    but i dont have to much experience with 3D(almost nothing XD)
    so i need help
    first ironhide, i figured out how to make him more movie accurated (proportions)
    second make jazz more generations-g1-movie hybrid(not movie accurated)
    but as i said i have almost no experience with 3D programs
    any help its apreciated
    (¬¬ dont say "look one of the many tutorials around the internet" because i think it wouldl take much time to learn enough to make them)
    (sorry my english, XP)
    (i actually havee offroad ironhide(allspark) and rotf smokescreen(jazz repaint))
    so i had to much time to think about the "addons"
     
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    Treadshot A1 Or just 'A1' for short...

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    *Calling Venksta to Radicons help desk...Calling Venksta...*

    Uh, so what is it you want? It seems you want to learn to use 3D programs, but you don't want to read the tutorials on teh net. In that case, i'm out of ideas.

    I learnt to use Sketchup at school, just the basics, and then just went by trial and error, and then used Shapeways | Passionate about creating for printing. But Venksta should know more than me.
     
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    its not that i dont want to learn, its just it will take too much time, thats why i asked here for help
     
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    Treadshot A1 Or just 'A1' for short...

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    So let's say someone decides to help you.

    Then what? What would that person have to do? I gather from what you posted that you have plans for these 'addons', but not yet drawn in the computer as 3D models, right?
     
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    ok , im doing sketchs and models(plasticine? mmm im sleepy right now that i dont even know if i said it right), and paper models
    (photos when i finish them)
    but i need a real 3d render of the "designs" thats why i asked for help

    ok the pieces will be
    new face(actually it will be placed over the original head)
    door articulation
    new arms(plugged in the actual things that its supposed to be jazz's arms)
    new fake leg wheels(more accurated)
    shoulder plates(movie accurated)
    and some more things(design in progres)
    yes there be some partsforming, but the mold wastes too much space, so...its the best i can do
     
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    Treadshot A1 Or just 'A1' for short...

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    Ah, okay. Your English is actually quite good, and i see what you're getting at now, you just want someone to help you put your hand drawn plans into the computer. :) 

    Now, while i have dealt with 3D modelling before, and produced one test design myself, i am still not very familiar with it, nor do i have the time, unfortunately, so i will not be much help to you here. I suggest you send a privet message to either Venksta or Delta Star, both of which i'm pretty sure have more knowledge than me, and they can both also lead you through Shapeways, which is really useful for printing out your parts after they have been put into digital form.
     
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    My suggestion is to DL sketchup (its free) and do the basic tutorials it leads you through.

    After that look up videos on youtube, seeing the model take shape in psuedo real-time helps a lot.

    the other option is to save some money to hire someone to model it for you. Or post in the request forum and someone might help for free(very slim, 3D modeling is time consuming, much more so than "sketching an idea")
     
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    tgping, ¬¬ you dont really understand my problem right?
     
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    TGping has a good point, I learnt Sketchup in minutes. However, I'd say you should go see if you can hire someone to do it for you, in which case members like Venksta, process and others have experience. It'll cost ya, but it's probably faster.

    I highly doubt anyone's going to do this for free. :( 
     
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    if i had time i would help but my time is being used for other things( life is a :crazy:  sometimes. Hopefully someone can help you or point you in the right direction.
     
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    ok i´ll go for the tutorials
    i only was asking becaus the time, but if it only take minutes...
    well, thanks
     
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    Dont worry about the learning process its like anything else in life after some trial and error, you finally get it right. so have fun learning it...I did, but thats my :2c: 
     
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    I get it, but its the only way. You have to put in the work like everyone else.

    I think you are underestimating your own ability as well as the quality of the tutorials that are out there. I get you dont have time to waste with something stupid like learning, but ya gotta bite the bullet on this one.

    Start by downloading google sketchup for free, and trying out the tutorials provided with it. Its a pretty straightforward deal. you aren't going to get good at 3D without trying.
     
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    ok, some more models(plasticine)
    some sketches
    and "comming soon, this summer" movie trailer voice)
    3d models(very basic)
     
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    pls let me finish the models
    I have to improve them
    well this will be the parts(for those who want to know):
    (extra parts for arms, with new hands, and even can transform)
    (new doors that you can place as panels(like the movie jazz figure) or like wings(like generations jazz figure)
    im working to make less partsforming
    (¬¬ yes i know you dont take my project serious because there´s no photos, digital models, and even because its movie jazz figure)
    i know im not ventska, cashanova, or grimmlock
    but i really think this figure deserve an upgrade kit
    i really like the mold, and as i said, it can be better
     
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    Hey, don't worry, we're all just here to help. When you have something done, please do show us! :) 

    And yes, Movie Jazz does suck. A lot.
     
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    i dint say it sucks, i said i like it a lot but it can be better
    ah and for ironhide(XP i forgot to mention it) well im working on jazz but
    here its what its supposed to be the ironhide upgrade
    a piece that conect the head piece(that thing that supports the head) and the wheels, angled to look more movie accurated, and the vehicle cab
    second its a piece that goes on each arm and supports the cannons in the new position(again, more accurated)
    and also a couple of peices that atach to cannons(gues what, for more accuracy XD)
    and all the pieces can be transformed without partsforming(contrary to jazz, ironhide have enough free space)
     
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    im gonna quit this project for now, "learning" its taking me too much time, so, i will cancel this for now
     

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