personal opinion on repaints

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  1. newguy

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    I personaly think that repaints are good for hasbro and takara, but its getting really stupid. What do you people think?
     
  2. Foster

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    There have been some really nice repaints lately, like the Target movie scouts and the Walmart movie deluxes. The Premium Series are nice too, especially the upcoming Megatron.

    It's not like in Armada and Energon where every character had a PAWAH-UP! at the end of the series, just to sell the same toy in obnoxious new colors.
     
  3. Basketball Jones

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    There's nothing wrong with selling the same toy in obnoxious new colors, but the new color scheme should be a separate character.

    It would be nice if the designers were more creative in their names- why does red Bumblebee always have to be Cliffjumper? Can't he ever be Overdrive, Windcharger, or Lightspeed?
     
  4. Deadsled

    Deadsled Energon Recovery

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    personally I'm only interested in the molds, painting the same thing 6 different ways to "pad the roster" has never settled with me
     
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    Necessary evil. Hasbro wants to recoup as much money as they can from a mold, so they repaint them. Sometimes they're good, sometimes they suck. In the end, no one is forcing anybody to buy them, so why bother complaining?
     
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    I guess i like them, I am a collector of lucky draws. also i think repaints are best when they repaint the fig to look like a G1 character. I always think thats pretty cool.
     
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    Repaints for things like the Classics line can work out pretty good, esspecially if they can flop a new head on them. I don't mind the repaints but certainly don't buy them all.
     
  8. Rend

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    They've been doing repaints since the G1 days with Prowl, Bluestreak, Smokescreen, Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker, etc...

    Get used to it. They can make more money with less overhead when they reuse molds. This is a fact in the production world, and don't expect to see Hasbro change it anytime soon. Because if they were to always put out individual toys they would have some serious overhead. Which doesn't look good on paper for the big wigs. :p 
     
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    Repaints are a scam to get us to buy the same toy over and over. I'll have no part of it anymore.
     
  10. Chaos Convoy

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    At least most, if not all of the repaints in recent years have been good. Some have been really great. Back in the days of Universe, the repaints weren't always that great. In fact, a lot were pretty horrible.

    Granted, the amount of them can be a little annoying sometimes. But like I said, at least most of them are good-looking repaints.
     
  11. Takeshi357

    Takeshi357 "Research"

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    *cough*seekers*cough*
     
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    salmonman78 Mordin, my hero

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    Alright, but gets old when ALL you see are repaints. Near the end of cybertron couple good ones but, eh, pass most of the time
     
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    I guess that's my biggest grievence against repaints lately. it's several versions fewer figures, even in g1 the repaints were minimal and usually had a little scuplt mod here or there
     
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    I like repaints. Sure, they are a strategy to sell the same toy multiple times, but I dig 'em because:

    1. Revenue from low-overhead sale of repaints finances new molds
    2. It gives customers more variety, and lets them pick from several color schemes for a given mold
    3. They provide lots of raw material for kitbashers and customizers, perhaps giving them a base mold that would fit their idea better
    4. They give folks a chance to get molds later that they might have missed the first time around
    5. They're a tradition dating back to Diaclone days
    6. Often the repaints looks better than the original color scheme
    7. No one's forcing anyone to buy 'em :) 

    As an addendum, though, most of those reasons only apply to FULL repaints/recolors. That is, color schemes that are completely altered or made into new characters. I don't care for "repaints" like the Allspark-spattered movie deluxes. But then... that's where point number 7 comes in handy. :) 
     
  15. red00wolf

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    if a mold is good and the repaint is good ill get as many as are made.
     
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    I have no problem with them. I understand that they're necessary from a fiscal perspective to both recoup the cost of making a mold in the first place and to provide a revenue stream that allows the creation of new molds, some of which won't be repainted. In terms of the number of repaints we've seen lately of the Movie figures, from what I understand (and correct me if I'm wrong), Paramount has partial IP ownership of some/all of the Movie molds. Because of that, Hasbro's not going to be able to use these for repaints without having to pay Paramount (and likely the vehicle licensors) royalties; therefore, they need to get as much mileage out of them as possible now.

    From a personal buying perspective, I evaluate repaints on an individual basis. If it's a good repaint, a mold I really like or a mold I passed/missed the first time, I'll pick it up. If it's a colour scheme I don't like or a bad mold, I'll pass. Like others have said, no one is being forced to buy repaints (or any figure, for that matter). Don't like it? Leave it on the shelf and save your money.
     
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    thats a good point (im laughing)
     
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    very true, and G1 was sitting on a previous stockpile of Diaclone molds. was pretty easy for them to put out such a variety as they did.
     
  19. taterx

    taterx Lurkin since Transfandom

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    I can dig it when it works like G1 movie jazz and best buy megatron.
     
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    I always thought Transformers was a cool toy line because of the repaints. It's one of the few toylines out there that will give you different color options while still keeping both versions interesting enough on their own, if you missed one you could still get it later, and if you didn't like the colors odds were you'd get an alternative. In recent years we've had repaints good enough to completely set them apart from their previous versions, Walmart Jolt is a prime example. It helps Hasbro recoup the cost of the designing and mold production, and it provides us more figures and options. There's no harm in not buying if you dont like it.

    Cybertron was big on repaints for me. You had a lot of figures released in radically different color schemes that completely changed the personality of the toy. You had wild paint jobs with Hot Shot, Megatron, Hardtop, Cannonball, Skywarp, Repugnus, and more subdued colors with Exillion, Galvatron, Swindle, Red Alert, Thundercracker, and Undermine. Among those were also the difference between new characters and good homages, which include Crosswise and Smokescreen, Brakedown and Brakedown GT, and more recently Downshift and Big Daddy.

    In modern times we see another option in upgrades, the Beast Wars 10th figures, Hasbro and Takara's versions, and the movie Premium figures gives us the chance to get better versions of our favorite toys without buying an expensive custom or attempting it ourselves and most likely ruining the toy.

    Is it cheap? Yeah. But odds are without Hasbro repainting figures we'd only get a third of the toys we do now, and that doesn't mean they'd be any better, just fewer and farther between. They serve a purpose, and they help fans and Hasbro in the end. And if you dont like them... well, nobody forces you to buy them, right?
     

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