Original molds query

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  1. Voiceroy

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    Are there any fans out there who own an original TF toy mold? TFWiki.net says molds have been lost and/or stolen in the past, which makes me wonder if any of these have come into fan possession.

    Another reason I'm curious is I just want to know what one looks like. The pics I've found are misnamed "molds" when they're actually prototypes, test sculpts, [edit] or castings from the original mold or die[/edit]. And I found a couple interesting links during the search that offered a little more info on molds/molding, but none are for actual TF toys:

    Hirst Arts Mold Making Page
    Injection molding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    that is not a mold. thats a concept piece.

    I doubt any fans own any actual TF molds, as they are massive steel things, are extremely heavy, and in china.
     
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    That's not a mold,that's a casting from the mold.

    The mold's are used to cast the figure from either resin or plastic,most molds for toys are often metal.
     
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    Interesting, and I appreciate the links, but it's still not quite what I was looking for.

    It appears my choice of wording needs to be more specific, since so many fans associate a "mold" with what's linked above. That's the product of a mold, not the actual mold or die itself that it's produced from.

    That's what I want to know if any fans own and would like to see pics of.

    [edit]Casting! That's the word I was trying to think of. Thanks, Overhaulimus. It's derived from the term "die cast". I was sitting there thinking "die... die... something..." Gah, I hate brain freeze.
     
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    Yeah, I kinda figured that. But wouldn't it be kind of an ultimate extremely rare collectible if you owned one?
     
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    I'm sure you can find photos of steel toolings used to produce ordinary plastic items. I don't know a Transformers-specific mold would be what you may be thinking anyway. Usually at least three are required for an average sized toy, and what they put out just looks like the sprue frames from any model kit.

    I suspect if any fan could ever possibly come into ownership of one of these by whatever means, it's vastly more likely to be someone actually in China. But as others have said, these are fairly massive and bloody heavy. Not exactly something you can smuggle out of a factory while nobody's watching. ;) 
     
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    I have a G1 Sunstreaker, but he's in... really, REALLY bad shape.

    Edit: Oh... an original product of the mold, not the toy itself (ie, finished product)... then nope. I don't.
     
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    Injection molding dies aren't the sort of thing you collect.

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    Each one of those is a near solid block of steel, and several hundred pounds. You can't put that sort of thing on a shelf :lol 

    Old molds are usually seen as being worth more as scrap metal than as something to "keep for a rainy day" by the factory.
     
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    That Torca concept sculpt does look really damn cool though...
     
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    Personally what I would LOVE to see is the factory instructions for actually assembling a TF. That would be cool as hell to look at IMO.
     
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    I think it would be hilarious if those instructions are written in Chinese, translated to English, then back into Chinese before printing.

    Using Babelfish.
     
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    I've got Wheeljack in my basement! :) 
     
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    hey me too!!!
     
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    Closest I've ever seen to that is the actual mold for a vintage vinyl figure (a Bandai Godzilla of some kind, I'm pretty sure). I'd post it here to give the rest of you an idea of how these things look, but I didn't save the pics and don't remember the source. It was cool to see though!
     
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    So how do they get "stolen" then, as TFWiki.net states?
     
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    With several people and a moving truck, the same way that heavy steel pieces gets stolen from construction yards and railroads, at which point they likely end up at a scrap yard, sold for the value of the metal, and melted.
     
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    I would imagine "abandoned" is a likely culprit as well. As factories change ownership or their contract for producing something expired, these things just sat around until someone sold, moved, or stored them.

    I'm certain they're a bit more on top of it these days, but I wonder if back in the day, the idea of a toy being reissued 20 years down the line was unheard of. Once the run was finished, the mold may have been seen as somewhat expendable.
     

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