Original 13 Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by Robimus Major, Sep 8, 2011.

  1. Robimus Major

    Robimus Major Well-Known Member

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    I know this has been discussed before, however, we now have a little more info than last time (I think)

    Who are the original 13?

    Confirmed:

    1 Prima
    2 Megatronus Prime/The Fallen
    3 Alpha Trion
    4 Vector Prime
    5 Nexus Prime
    6 Liege Maximo
    7 Solus Prime

    My Speculation:

    8 Modus Prime. It has been confirmed 1 will be a Minicon and Modus is the only Minicon Prime.

    9 One will have a Beast Mode, also confirmed.

    10 It as been reported that the 13 will embody key elements of the Transformers mythos, so I'm thinking one might be a Triple Changer.

    Still 3 more which I haven't got any ideas. 8, 9 and 10 are good guesses. Any more ideas?
     
  2. Ezilla82

    Ezilla82 Expect the Unexpected.

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    I hope that one of them is a (insert name here) Master, maybe another one be a Pretender, and maybe a counterbalance to Liege Maximo, but thats my speculations.
     
  3. Wheeljack_Prime

    Wheeljack_Prime Don't eat me

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    I'm kinda thinking that the mini-con is Safeguard, since he was Vector Prime's partner in Cybertron.

    And even though Hasbro's told us that he isn't, Macaddam totally should be.
     
  4. Robimus Major

    Robimus Major Well-Known Member

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    The western version of Power/Target/Head Masters wouldn't work would it? With the partners being human/nebulon. The Jap version would, and that's an excellent idea.
     
  5. meirelle

    meirelle Sea of Shelfwarmers

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    Maccadam.
     
  6. The F.N.G.

    The F.N.G. Well-Known Member

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    I agree with both of these. I also like the idea that someone had suggested: If the beast-former is one of the seven Primes, then he or she should be called "Primal".
     
  7. Overlord Balder

    Overlord Balder Voices Slugslinger!

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    Seeing as each is an "original" TF, I'd say a "first triple-changer" is required.

    I think we might see the first "masters" too [Targetmaster, Headmaster..] and definitely the first titanic cybertronian [titanic in the Metroplex and Trypticon sense of the word].
     
  8. Karhukjnsi

    Karhukjnsi Universal Wrestler

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    Possibly a first "flyer/seeker"?

    Here's the list as I've written it:

    1. Prima - The First Prime, Warrior of Light
    2. Vector Prime - Guardian of Time
    3. Solus Prime - The First Female, Blacksmith
    4. Liege Maximo - Ancestor of most Decepticons, Lawful Evil
    5. Nexus Prime - The First Combiner, Guardian of Rarified Energon and the Star Saber
    6. ???
    7. ??? Prim(e/al?)
    8. ???
    9. Alpha Trion - Author of the Covenant of Primus
    10. ???
    11. ??? Prime
    12. ???
    13. Megatronus Prime - Guardian of Entropy, Warrior of Darkness, Chaotic Evil
     
  9. Transformed

    Transformed 神戸 Member

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    Were they really called "the original 13" or the "the 13 Primes?"
     
  10. Karhukjnsi

    Karhukjnsi Universal Wrestler

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    Thirteen original Transformers, but on one occasion they were the "the Original Epic Warriors of Cybertron".
     
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    So they were the first to Transform, not the first Cybertronians?
     
  12. The F.N.G.

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    As per tfwiki:

    I guess it makes him a chronicler of sorts, monitoring and recording the history of Cybertron.
     
  13. Karhukjnsi

    Karhukjnsi Universal Wrestler

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    Because of that, I've edited my original post accordingly.

     
  14. Karhukjnsi

    Karhukjnsi Universal Wrestler

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    In the new continuity, "Transformer" seems to be the name of their species, but at some point in time, various groups took to the stars (before or during the Autobot/Decepticon war remains to be seen) and founded colonies in other areas of space (like Velocitron and Gigantron); so they became 'Velocitronians', 'Gigantronians', and whathaveyou, respectively.

    Perhaps those who feel closer to Cybertron prefer to be known as 'Cybertronians'.

    But the Original Thirteen were at least Cybertronians, no true guarantee of they were 'Transformers' in the sense of transforming quite yet.
     
  15. Robimus Major

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    That was my thoughts originally. Safeguard or Over-Run. I only picked Modus because he had the title Prime. It could easily be wrong as we have seen the Last Autobot create him in modern times. Does that prove he's not been around since the very beginning of Cybertron?
     
  16. Karhukjnsi

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    Did the Last Autobot create Modus, or re-create him? If the former, unlikely he's one of the Thirteen, if the latter, chances improve (but do not necessarily make it probable).
     
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    Torque The WORDSMITH

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    I've always figured the Last Autobot was one of the Original 13
     
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    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    Maccadam damnit!
     
  19. Karhukjnsi

    Karhukjnsi Universal Wrestler

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    Not officially confirmed one way or another, unfortunately.
     
  20. General Magnus

    General Magnus Da Custodes of the Emprah

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    What´s the Quill?
     

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