Optimus Prime too Weak?

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  1. Karmic Buddha

    Karmic Buddha Optimus-Prime

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    I don't know if there is already a post of this nature up here on the boards, but was it just me or was optimus MUCH to weak in this film. It appeared he struggled way to much against Megatron. I remember it being the opposite back in the G1 Series, everyone feared Optimus because of his ability.. Thoughts!?
     
  2. Valkysas

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    trying to avoid human casualties severely limits anyone's fighting abilities.
     
  3. smkspy

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    Prime got his ass handed to him in G1 quite often. I liked movie Prime not being a complete bad-ass though it was disappointing that Prime couldn't finish Megs.
     
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    And trying not to hurt the guy your fighting. Prime should have gotten more hits in for sure!
     
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    Not to mention Megs was fucking brutal. Prime was tough, he easily did away with BC. But when he was fighting BC he was able to get him away from humans and beat him, but Megs wasn't going anywhere.
     
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    Considering Megatron was the main villain of the movie and he only shows up for the final 20 or so minutes of the movie there was no way they were gonna have him get owned by Prime after all that build up.

    The problem is we don't see enough of the Prime/Megs fight, you can see Prime getting a few hits in on Megs in the background while Blackout is advancing on them. But yeah Prime still gets his ass kicked, and it was obviously done by the writers to increase the tension at the end and show the Megatron means business.
     
  7. Conceptron

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    Optimus Prime was too weak. This is supposed to be a great warrior and the leader of the Autobots and he only killed ONE Decepticon. If it were not for the US Army, the Autobots would have been taken out by all the Decepticons.
     
  8. Sol Fury

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    True, the Autobots really should have been the ones to deliver the finishing blows on a few more of the Decepticons. Except Blackout, I think it is poetic justice that Lennox got to be the one who took him down. But I feel that one of the Autobots should have perhaps weakened him first, enough that Lennox's attack could finish him off.
     
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    i was about to say...

    first fight with megatron, he got tossed into the river... *more then meets the eyes, part 2?*

    the third fight, he got beat *heavy metal wars*

    in the movie, optimus prime took the most blows... lol. a slash to the stomach, and stabbed, then shot in the head lol.

    seems to me that optimus prime was always weaker then megatron, when fighting hand to hand combat in g1.

    and in fact, it would be boring if it was the other way around, and optimus prime was just as, let alone, MORE powerful then megatron, and would always win.

    g1 prime rarely won against megatron. and that's the way i liked it.

    and in even animated, he "barely" survived megatron.

    i think optimus prime was about the same, as g1, personally.

    only battle i can remember prime actually winning against megatron, is the battle at the end of the one that he gets damaged, and the autobots have to go to cybertron, to get a part, to save his life, or something like that, *don't remember the episode name though* i believe it was, season 1?

    is optimus prime weaker then megatron? not necessarily though, megatron just fights dirty, and uses optimus prime's honor against him, maybe?
     
  10. Chaos Prime

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    I wouldn't say Optimus was weak in the movie....he was a freakin' rag doll. I think that sums it up pretty well. LOL!
     
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    Your right he should have beat the main protagonist of the film with only one punch.
     
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    Prime was concerned about the colateral damage, Megs was not.

    Besides optimus shoved a sword throught BC´s throath and punched him so hard his optics came out. He can be as brutal as any decepticon, but he has a conscience.
     
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    I didn't feel Optimus was weak. He was no different than in G1. Megs has always been stronger.

    In the movie it was a case of Primes mind was in 2 places. One fighting Megs and keeping him from getting the Allspark, Two protecting Sam and all the other humans around and making sure he doesn't accidentally hurt anyone.
     
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    thygriever Optimus Prime

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    He wasn't weal! he just just couldn't smash everything around him like no one would get hurt. And obviously G1 and the movie plot would be kinda boring if Prime won all the time. Although he eventually does in the end :) 
     
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    The movie did make prime look weaker than megs. He als said 'if i can not defeat megatron' so implying that prime thought he might lose. In g1 the only time prime lost to megatron was when megs cheated or someone interfeared or he was concerned by the fate of another. Animated has the same thing going on. G1 prime was the best, the movie and animated can not compeate against megs a real shame, in my opinion.
     
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    I didn't feel he was too weak, after all Megatron is a brutal, fanatical warlord bent on conquest: he will fight till his enemy is dead regardless of consequences. Optimus is more your knight defender, willing to take the blows that others can't because he can. I felt thought that Megatron's death would have been better if it had been like the one in the game, or a more collabrative effort where Optimus restrained Megatron long enough for Sam to shove the AllSpark into him.
     
  17. jametron

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    Exactly.

    Which makes his line "You left me no choice brother" even more peculiar... considering it wasn't him that did-in Megatron lol!
     
  18. Ceasar121

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    Well in part he did finsh Megs off... He tripped him as Megs attempted to grab the allspark, allowing sam the chance to shove the spark in Megs chest without getting squashed.

    Secondly, this series is planned as a trilogy. If Prime beat megs soundly in the first one, it would destroy the inevitable carnage and finality of the Final Battle between Megs and Prime that is bound to happen.
     
  19. MugenAutobot

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    Movie Prime is not too weak, Mags is just that powerful. Prime knew there was a good chance he wasn't going to defeat Megatron head to head, thats why he made sure the other Autobots knew he would sacrifice himself to destroy the Cube, making sure Megatron couldn't get it even if he beat Prime, which again, Optimus knew was a true possibility.
     
  20. Nevermore

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    Oh noes, the main good guy actually had to fight and didn't simply defeat his archnemesis during his lunch break! How dare they!
     

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