Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by tony77tony77, Jan 31, 2009.
Do you guys consider Optimal Optimus is Optimus Prime or are they different?
Optimal Optimus is Optimus Primal
Primal tried to house Prime's spark in his body while the other Maximals repaired him. That turned Primal in Optimal, then he sent the spark back to Prime's body. So Prime's spark gave him a new body.
Optimal Optimus is just Primal with an Optimus Prime supercharge.
Basically the addition of G1 Optimus' spark just upgraded his physical form. Other than that, he's still Optimus Primal.
This discussion brings up some real deep philosophical questions. Just how do we define someone. Is it their physical being, in the example given that being the body of Optimus Primal. Or is it something more spiritual, as at the time the body was created by and housed the sparks of both Primal and Prime.
Truly something to think about.
Yep, like the Japanese Primal that has head the looks like Convoy/Optimus for back when the original idea for BW that it would have been the orginial G1 Optimus Pime as the Munky and Megs as the Barney Dino.
I think a lil of primes personality bled through while he had his spark but yes he is still optimus primal
All things aside, well, he's just prime.
Optimal Optimus is just a nickname for his transmetal 2 form.
This. It was the selling name, but in the show it's just the name Megatron uses to mock the munkey. Shortly afterwards Primal ripped Megatron's tail off and stabbed him with it.
I don't think he much cared for that name.
He was still just a transmetal. transmetal twos have the whole mutant thing going for them.
They weren't mutant, they were an "unstable" blend of machine and organic. A step in the bizzare-er direction of Tranmetals. The mutant type guys were the Fuzors. But yes, OP OP technically is just a Transmetal. (not that he doesn't have organic left in him)
by mutant i ment that the transmetal twos had a very irregular cyborg look to them.
I think the upgrade had more to do with the Matrix than Prime's spark. If any of the original Prime had imprinted on Primal he would have gained some knowledge about the Ark or Meg's plan or something, otherwise what would be the point.
Prime's spark definitely left a lasting impression on him, but he's still Primal.
Like other have said , it's the same bot with a new body.
Primal was a born leader, so when he took the Matrix it had the same effect on him as it did Hot Rod. Both getting an extreme power boost and body upgrade.
Except it wasn't the Matrix, but a Matrix-looking Spark container. And unlike Hot Rod, Primal didn't revert back after giving the spark back or removing it.
Optimal Optimus Primal.
there ya go.
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