Nintendo goes after modchips

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  1. Boardwise

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    Quick, lets pick up our pitchforks and storm Nintendo!
    Oh wait, it's not Sony so it's all ok! Hurrah!

    Though it is interesting that Nintendo have basically said 'Oh look, you can get a modchip for the Wii'
    A simple solution would be to actually release the games in Europe in a reasonable time to the US couterparts.
     
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    yup, and make more consoles!
     
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    Nintendo has posted information warning against the use of devices that circumvent copy protection since late in the SNES era. Check the backs of the later SNES games' instruction manuals. In the meantime, they aren't trying to sue import online stores out of existence (AFAIK). This isn't news.
     
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    Yes, my chisel to prise out the clips in my SNES which then allowed me to play Japanese games. That was sure some great protection there!

    And as for it not being news, a fair few news sites would beg to differ.


    Probably a slow genuine news day :eek: 
     
  5. Boardwise

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    I thought it was worthwhile news.
    Guess me and a fair few news sites must be wrong.

    In future I'll run all news past Flamepanther to make sure it's post worthy.
     
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    If games didn't have region protection to begin with, there wouldn't be anywhere near as much of a market for modchips. Only reason I got my PS consoles modded was because I love RPGs and so many ones I like (Wild Arms, Arc the lad) never make it to these shores.

    Honestly, if things were run more efficiently and sensibly, it would not be such an issue, I think.
     
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    Yeah, their warnings were more about using "backup" units, like my trusty GDSF7/PSF2.
    Actually, that's pretty much what I'm guessing. That or everyone has short memories and/or never actually looks at their instruction manuals.

    And for the record, I don't have a problem with Sony's stance on modchips. There's really no other stance for a console manufacturer or games publisher to have. That's fine just as long as they stick to just saying "mod chips are bad, mmkay?" and not actively trying to shut down entire import businesses.
     
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    I never knew modchips were illegal here. Interesting....I wonder if it's a misdemeanor or a felony?
     
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    It’s hard to be outraged at Nintendo because there is no letter S in there name to turn into a $. :( 
     
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    Well I don't recall anyone going to prison in the cases I've read about. It's not explicitly on the books either. It falls under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, that bans circumvention of copy protection schemes. Generally, you have to be able to demonstrate that a program or device has a legitimate and beneficial use (like playing imported games) for it to not be illegal under the DMCA. So, I suppose whether mod chips are illegal or not depends on what judge is presiding over the case, which mod chip is in question (some have legit uses, some don't), and how good your lawyer is.
     
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    Guess I can't scare my friends. Oh well, I'll find something else to do.
     
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    You could always change the t to a cross and blame them for crucifictions, but usually people do care more about money.
     
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    Modchips themselves aren't illegal. What a good number of individuals plan to do with them (Pirate games) is. As for voiding your warranty or breaking your Wii. Yes both are chances you take when you modify a delicate electronic device.

    Though this is hardly news. Nintendo has had this stance for years. Though I wish they'd open up more avenues for legitimate homebrew software other than just flash games.
     
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    In the US they are, if you fail to demonstrate that playing imported games is a legitimate use or you have a biased copyright nazi of a judge. People have been in trouble here for selling modchips and backup devices before. That's what's messed up about the DMCA. It pretty much destroys some important forms of fair use, including our previously established right to make and use one backup copy of any piece of software we own. If it involves circumventing copy protections, it's now illegal in the U.S.
     
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    Nintendo also claimed that importing legitimate foreign games is part of the 'grey market' and that renting is a form of piracy.

    Oh, Nintendo Power. You were full of insane propeganda that I miss.
     
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    You'll find that other game publishers have made similar claims. Capcom has in the past (if they don't still) included anti-resale propaganda with their games, for example. It basically amounts to the same thing every time a game is marked "not for resale" or "not for sale or rent" too. As if there's something to stop you?
     
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    I liken that to the VC games on the Wii. If you sell the Wii, they tell you to erase all the VC games. If I were to sell my Wii, all those VC games would be a selling point, no different than if I was selling the physical cartridges. It would be stupid to erase them.
     

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