First of all, you have to understand one thing. I do not consider the ROTF prequel comics as canon. I just don't. I don't think anyone involved with the film ever considered anything in the comics. I read them, and honestly I think they sucked, and their particular explanation of where the Fallen was, how he seduced Megatron, and how he ended up crashed on the Nemesis are all very weak ideas, and not really supported by things in the movie directly anyway. In fact, because I was using them to support what wasn't shown in the film, I think it made me dislike the movie even more because they presented ideas I didn't like, making me predisposed to dislike the Fallen. So....that said...I sat down with ROTF (and a remote with a convenient fast forward button) and decided to really break down the Fallen, his story, and his ties to the modern Decepticons using only what we are told and shown in the film, which is the only true movie canon for me. I wanted to completely rethink the situation from scratch using the movie only. I'm beginning to think it's a possibility the Fallen spawned ALL OF the Decepticons from the crashed Nemesis, and the Nemesis has been the base this whole time! (The movie does seem to treat them as a separate race in alot of ways.) BUT, I'll get to that. Let's look at what the movie tells us about The Fallen. 1. The Fallen was one of Cybertron's original leaders, the 7 Primes. They were on Earth to make a Sun Harvester, with other Cybertronians to build it, when they discover life. (Shown in opening scene) 2. He decides to break the One Rule of Life and activate the Harvester anyway, steals the Matrix of Leadership, starts a revolt and decides to take all of the Energon for his own. (note the matrix is taken from the Primes on Earth, but before the battle starts.) It looks like alot of the Cybertronians recognized him as leader once he had the Matrix and sided with him. 3. The other Primes fight back, stab the Fallen with two spears, and take the Matrix back. They sacrifice themselves in order to hide it from the Fallen at all costs. The Fallen despises Earth because it was his place of failure, and the humans were what started the conflict to begin with, and wants revenge on the whole place, as well as the Energon from our sun in the process, to "preserve his race" and build his army, as well as for personal power. 4. We know that the Fallen has sent out Seekers to find the Matrix. What is unclear is whether the Seekers were left behind from the original soldiers, or sent back at a later date. Jetfire specifically says "He left me here to rust". This could mean that either he literally left him behind to go elsewhere, or was sent on a mission to stay there indefinitely. There was a huge battle going on around the Harvester, but the final results are unclear, other than the fate of the Matrix and the Primes. 5. The Fallen survived the final battle for the Matrix, because the Primes were hiding the Matrix from him in fear of him regaining it, and at some point he ordered the Seekers to find the Matrix, he mentored Megatron, and is on the Nemesis, spawning an army with thousands of hatchlings. He hasn't been on Earth for millennia. (thousands of years) He left Earth, left Jetfire there to rust, and is on a crashed ship. 6. The Fallen appears to be on some sort of life support. The other theory is that he is "feeding" all the hatchlings with his own life force. He seems to feel much better when Prime dies. Let's look at a few things. The Fallen has knowledge of how to spawn hatchlings. The Nemesis is the Decepticon base. The Nemesis has crashed on some remote planet, and it looks like it's been there for a long time. Megatron calls it home. Megatron seems to nearly worship the Fallen. The Decepticons look like a different race, with an exoskeleton-insect like appearance. They all have red eyes. They are the mortal enemies of the Autobots. They speak Cybertronian, have knowledge of what ancient Cybertronian at least looks like, knows the Fallen and his plan, and behaves very differently than Autobots. The reserve troops that don't scan any Earth modes look like Megatron. So. If you look at all of these things....I'm starting to think that the Fallen crashed his ship after leaving Earth, or ran out of fuel, and has used it as his base of operations since. He started to spawn the Decepticons we know today to attack Cybertron and steal the All Spark, and the original crew was sent to Earth as Seekers. Since he was working with limited Energon reserves, it took a loooong time. Maybe he was offline for awhile after the crash. I don't know...this just seems to make a lot of sense to me in so many ways. As direct creations of the Fallen, it explains why they look that way. It explains why they are obsessed with hatchlings and preserving "their race", while Prime wants to use Energon to restore Cybertron instead. It explains him being the first Decepticon. It explains clone bodies. It explains Wheelie recognizing ancient Cybertronian and knowing of the Seekers. It explains the red eyes and monstrous teeth. It explains why Megatron seems to almost worship the Fallen. It explains why the Cons seem to use hatchlings and the Autobots don't. It explains why the Autobots have no knowledge of The Fallen. It explains where the Decepticons came from on Cybertron to start the Civil War. It explains why it doesn't appear to be common knowledge one can switch factions, but they are all still Cybertronians, as the Fallen was from Cybertron, just called Decepticons instead of the default "Autobots". It explains why the Decepticons seem to know what is going on and the Autobots are clueless. I don't see many reasons in the films that contradict this at all...and it actually kind of makes ROTF a little better in my mind now that I've put it all together from what's in the movie. It sure as heck seems better than the Fallen talking to Megatron through a Magic Triangle, saying "Hey...pssst, dude, listen. You should TOTALLY be evil. No, seriously, it's awesome. Just go with it." then having the Magic Triangle on the way to Earth only to crash, and somehow end up from being a talking Magic Triangle to a convalescent robot in a chair. (thanks comics) I tried to base this all from fact established on screen and not wild speculation or the comics. What are your thoughts?