Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by HawaiianBro808, Jun 12, 2018.
I kind of get what you’re saying but I’m not sold. I’d prefer someone else.
Yeah, fuck people that make a profession out of having informed opinions because we can't bother forming them ourselves, right? Hurray for ignorance!
Lorenzo is probably the biggest reason I'm not rushing to be convinced by a heartwarming trailer and whatever promises of greatness are being made. I'm honestly being hopeful. Bumblebee can prove many of the things that many people have been asking from the franchise and open some new creative directions. But, after all, it's still a bayverse spinoff, produced by the same people, written by people from the writers' room that brought us TLK, featuring a version of Bay's Bumblebee. I want to believe in Travis Knight and I hope he delivers something that leads the way to greater things, but, in all honesty, there's still too much luggage from the past for me to be convinced it's a "new beginning" in any more meaningful way than AOE was. A director, however great he might be, is only one cog in the machine, however integral it is. I don't want to be let down again. And I wouldn't like Bumblebee, however well made it might be, to be their way of slying out of the consequences of their failures and creating something truly new, from the ground up.
Yay! By the way I kind of got lost in the moment so I don’t actually have a problem.
I get what you mean. It's cool.
I really do feel that TLK did badly because Bay was done creatively and out of ideas. Then, they tried way too many things (and none of them new) so the story became a mess.
If they could keep the story grounded and more focused, like this prequel seems to be, we might have something to go off of. No more ancient histories, relics, etc. A nice, clean story that is easy to follow made by another director with a fresh vision.
Maybe have Unicron save Megatron and give him tough Decepticons (like Cyclonus and Scourge) to battle the Bots, but have only a few bad guys. And focus on Megatron's internal struggle.
Where I can't see it?
It's the scene when Bee stands up, and Charlie is sitting on the floor. I watched the original trailer, and it's there too, so I guess it's actually not new.
Critics are paid to rip things to shreds mostly. . .
"We get to understand who Bumblebee is & why people love him."
What you need to understand is how advertising works and how mindless & easily brainwashed humans are. The more you push something, the more screen time you give something & the more repetition you pump into a human's brain, the more you control them. Before 2007 Bumblebee as nothing. Now 11 years later look where we are. Bumblebee has been forced on the population, he has been on every piece of merchandise, in the Bay movies he was made as powerful as Optimus Prime when he was only supposed to be a scout & he has taken over the animated shows in Prime, RID & the upcoming Cyberverse. Nobody gave the slightest shit about Bumblebee before 2007, but now through over saturation & repetition everybody has been brainwashed. They think they love Bumblebee, they think Bumblebee is their favorite character because they have no mind of their own & are easily brainwashed & manipulated. That's how advertising works. That's how cults brainwash their members. Majority of humans are weak minded fools that can't think for themselves & are easily manipulated. Taking the blue pill & wasting their pathetic lives plugged into the matrix. Back in the day we only had ads on TV. Now we have constant advertising everywhere. It's impossible to escape the constant brainwashing through advertising. People don't love Bumblebee, people are mindless zombies!
Now go smoke a cigarette & check your Facebook page zombie.
Travis Knight: Hello, I\'m Travis Knight…
Me: Can we see more of Starscream?
Travis Knight: I grew up in the 80s…
Me: That\'s Starscream, right? Can we hear him talk?
Travis Knight: Did you guys see \"ParaNorman?\"
Me: Starscream has, like, a normal mouth, right? No \"bug mouth?\"
Travis Knight: Heartfelt.
Me: Don\'t screw up Starscream.
Why do you do this to yourself?
No fan base is as awful as Star Wars fans. Solo was great.
Yeah it was good. I don’t get all the shit.
Solo is my favorite Star Wars spin off of the franchise, those angry star wars fans are trolls I still dont get all the hate at all.
they introduced a different sith at the end from the phantom menace movie
Hard to screw up a character who's not in the movie.
I am super hyped for this movie.
Want some salt with your fires and hamburger or did you have pepper
"Let the past die, kill it if you have to."
Honestly, it depends on what kind of let down you are expecting. I know I was let down by TLK's failure to explore new concepts as well in comparison with the 2007 movie which was an exciting start at the time.
And I know I don't like how they're handling Batman in the DCEU but I still want to see what his movie would be like under certain hands. After all, you never know... They made Thor's character more lighthearted and comedic in Ragnarok compared to the other Thor movies within the same universe.
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