Customs: Needed: Designer for Botch cassette/crab toy

Discussion in 'Requests' started by Botch, May 31, 2012.

  1. Botch

    Botch Decepticon Intelligence

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    "Botch the Crab is the greatest TF fan character ever created. He's totally canon in my head." - Derrick J. Wyatt

    Hi! This is Botch, the guy behind the Transformers Box Art Archive.

    If you're familiar with my site, you're probably familiar with its mascot, Botch, a Decepticon cassette that transforms into a crab.

    For a long time I have wanted to produce an actual transforming Botch toy. Now that we're in the age of third-party products, I think that time has come.

    I already have a tentative agreement with an established third-party TF manufacturer to mass-produce a Botch toy. Now all I need is a realistic design.

    So! I'm looking for someone who can produce that design. I'm open to different formats: sculpted toy; CAD drawings; 3D image design.

    Some details:
    • Botch should be equal in size to the other original Decepticon cassettes and therefore able to fit in Soundwave.
    • That means a lot of tiny parts, like the legs and the claws (which should open and close).
    • In the style of most cassettes, his (hopefully chrome) weapons will be detachable, of course.

    If you think this is the right thing for you, PM me or email me at botch@botchthecrab.com with info about format and estimates.

    A chance to design a mass-produced third-party toy for a popular fan character! Who's up for it?

    For more information, and to see more images of Botch, visit the About Botch page.

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  2. hXcpunk23

    hXcpunk23 The Chaos Bringer

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    I'm familiar with your site (been a fan for years) & love that mascot. Once you posted this, I went on a search because I remembered someone actually scratchbuilding one of these a while back. Here's what I dug up:

    Botch the crab - TFormers Community

    Maybe you can hit them up & have them scratchbuild one for you. It looks do-able, I personally don't have the time to dive on it (even though it looks like a fun project to do). Hope you find someone to give it a go & good luck!
     
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    Botch Decepticon Intelligence

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    Hey hXcpunk23, thanks for the compliments.

    I am definitely aware of Viagra Prime's kitbash (I've blogged about it myself, of course). But what I'm looking for is something a bit more professional. I want to mass-produce these, after all.

    I'm actually a little surprised by the lack of responses. I thought there would be people jumping at this chance. Is there a better place to look for someone to do a professional quality custom design?
     
  4. Wikkid

    Wikkid Semi-retired customizer

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    To be honest, you're asking for a scratchbuilt transformable custom in a small scale. There are only a handful of customizers who could accomplish such a task. (Unless all you want is a slighty modified repaint of movie scorponok) Viagra Prime was one of those few capable of such a build and if it isn't professional enough, then I'm sorry to say you're likely out of luck.

    A shapeways custom is about the only way you're going to see one done better and even fewer of those customizers are around. They would likely make the design available through their own source if they invested the time to blueprint it.

    Best of luck on the search, hopefully someone will tackle this as it'd make a great addition to Autoscout.
     
  5. Treadshot A1

    Treadshot A1 Or just 'A1' for short...

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    Botch, I'll chime in here and say I'm interested, not really in the design but just because Cassettes are my favorite sub-group of G1 Decepticons after the Insecticons.

    I haven't posted here before, though, because I've been trying to run some tests on whether the joints you're long for could reliably be made with Shapeways. I have no doubt that after my Fremble twins, the joint size isn't the key issue, it's the sheer number of them and making them fit in a cassette. Honestly, I'm worried about fragility at this point, which I'm not sure is a fault with Shapeways or Botch or both.

    That said, I would be interested in this project, but I have exams until the 12th of June, after which is have a few weeks off. If you can wait that long I can help you out with this. Examples of my work can be found in the Fan Art Forum, in "Treadshot's Shapeways Thread".

    I will state here though that Wikkid is right; Shapeways designers could easily just make a Crab-Cassette and call it a day. To get a designer onto this, you'd have to make some sort of deal with him/her as to who keeps the design, how it's released and at what scale (like, 100 units? 200? Etc.).

    As for me personally, I'd like to see how this thing is supposed to transform. The complexity of the transformation might make or break the toy (metaphorically and literally). Knowing how it works, I could see if it's really feasible. I'd also have to ask if you're planning to injection mold the parts and other stuff, but that's for later on.
     
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    Hey Treadshot, thanks for chiming in.

    This would not be a Shapeways or otherwise 3D-printed toy. It would be made from molds and produced by an established third-party manufacturer that already has experience producing well-known third-party TF toys.

    I really am looking primarily for a design, along the lines of the images you posted of your Ravager: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/trans...eadshots-shapeways-thread-10.html#post7095589

    Of course, if a designer were also able to print/build a working prototype as proof that the design was sound, that would even more excellent.

    And no, I don't expect them to do it for free.

    What do you think?
     
  7. Treadshot A1

    Treadshot A1 Or just 'A1' for short...

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    Hi Botch,

    I understand this isn't for Shapeways production (if that even counts as a method of production...). Shapeways is just a stage to go through, it's rapid prototyping for a reason. Make sure the design is sound before any sort of mould is made. To me, if i can get it to work through Shapeways, then i can get it to work in an injection molding facility (Shapeways regulations are stricter aside from the clamshelling issue).

    I don't mind having a crack at the design for Botch, but i think i'd need some more reference art before i can commit to such a project. All i can find are two pics of him (her? it?), which isn't much to go off. As i said last time, i'd also need to know a bit more about his transformation.

    If you don't mind supplying a few more images and showing me how he transforms, then i can get working on it after exams are done.

    As for cost, i'll wait until i see a few more pics of Botch. Depending on exactly how many parts need to be designed and the rights to said design, i'll give you a quote.

    If you can supply a few pics of Botch, feel free to PM me and we'll work something out. :) 
     
  8. Botch

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    Hey Treadshot! Thanks for the feedback and clarification, I'm a toy-making newbie.

    I think I might have gotten a working design, so I'm reluctant to request that you take time on a design unless this one falls through.

    That said, all the pics I have are

    Botch the Crab - About Botch
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    Transformers 3D

    Thanks! If this design falls through, I'll repost here and/or drop you a line.

    ~ Adam
     
  9. Treadshot A1

    Treadshot A1 Or just 'A1' for short...

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    no problem. Good luck with making Botch. :) 
     

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