Fan Art: need help KBing a face

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  1. Maximo Prime

    Maximo Prime Bassist of Ill Repute

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    hey guys! I'm going to get started on my kitbash of my fan character, BIACS (Bull In A China Shop). I want to bash his head out of RID Prime's. Here's my design, done in Photoshop:

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    So...should i carve it out of the moutplate? Is that even possible? Should i cut out the mouthplate entirely, and substitute another face, maybe an alternator's face? I'd like to keep the Prime eyes and stuff if possible.

    Thanks for any tips!!
     
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    Just carve the mouth. if you have to, you can add a smidge of putty, but I wouldnt' think it necessary, just a sharp blade and maybe a panel scribe.
     
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    I did something similar to this when I (very carefully) carved out alternator Primes faceplate with a scalpel for my alt. Ironhide custom and sculpted a replacement nose and chin out of green stuff.

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    My only regret is that I wish I'd spent more time sanding the plastic where his faceplate used to be, as the tiny chips and imperfections show up a lot more after painting.
     
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    Bull In A China Shop? Does that mean he wrecks absolutely nothing and avoids it all?

     
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  5. Maximo Prime

    Maximo Prime Bassist of Ill Repute

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    funny video - those ARE some nimble bulls - but you get a big raspberry. :D 

    ok, so i've never carved a face before. where would i start? is there a how-to floating around here on carving faces from faceplates? my first thought would be to scratch downward from the bottom of where the "nose" would end, until i've dug a ditch under the nose, then widen out from there, also going up around the sides of the nose. also leaving room for a mouth/lips. that sound about right?

    id0ru - can i see a close up of that face? that looks nice from the pic you've shown.
     
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  6. Viagra Prime

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    I think the easiest and yet still effective way to go about adding a "face" to RID OP's head is to scribe in the mouth and then add some sculpy for the nose (and chin if desired). To make the mouth, scribe in a straight line just about the middle of the mouthplate. To make him look a bit more serious, you can scribe in a small line angled down on each side of the mouth. Then scribe a thinner and less wide line right below that. Use some sculpy putty to make it so the nose appears outside of the faceplate (instead of inside of it as it is now). You can also use sculpy to add a chin if you like. See attached pic below for an example. It may not be detailed but I think still makes for a decent face while still keeping most of the original look of the head.

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    For details on scribing you can refer to this tutorial here:

    http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/rescribingda_1.htm

    For details on head scuplting, see this tutorial:

    http://www.tfw2005.com/radicons-cus...-2/custom-head-tutorial-by-sculpt-bot-164146/
     
  7. Maximo Prime

    Maximo Prime Bassist of Ill Repute

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    Thanks, VP!! you always give great direction. I'm gonna go check out those sites, and i'll post back here with progress!!!

    woo!

    EDIT: Ok, how do you bake sculpy? like, in what device, at what temp, etc.

    also - how would i bake sculpy that is attached to a regular head, rather than the whole head being made from sculpy? wouldn't it melt the head?
     
  8. Viagra Prime

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    You don’t really need to bake the sculpy. If you use 2 part epoxy sculpt then it hardens after a few hours. I think the best way to go about it (at least for me) is to cut a small piece of styrene (or any other plastic you can find) the size of the nose (extending down past a little of the faceplate) and glue that piece over the existing nose to make it look like one solid piece. Then fill in the gap underneath the styrene with some putty. I’m not good at sculpting so if I can use styrene as the foundation for any part and fill in gaps with putty I always use that route. It’ll come out more straight that way. If you just sculpt it with epoxy or other sculpy then you might get a crooked nose or something.
     
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    so the styrene strip would be the top layer of the new nose, with the supporting sculpy underneath?
     
  10. Viagra Prime

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    Yes. Just superglue the strip on top of the existing nose then fill up the small gaps below it (between the old nose and the strip. shouldn't be too much). When the putty dries use an exacto knife to clean/scrape off excess putty on the 2 sides of the nose and the lower side (nostril). Then sand it for a smooth finish.
     
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    Sweet. Thank you!!
     

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